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snowball
05-29-2009, 09:33 PM
Awesome :thumbsup2:

Sport Auto Magazine Nissan GT-R Supertest/ (http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/05/29/sport-auto-magazine-nissan-gt-r-supertest-result/)

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Sport Auto Magazine is the German magazine responsible for what many claim is the definitive independent test of a car at the Nurburgring. Manufacturers test their cars to the standards originally set by the Sport Auto Supertest and publish their results accordingly. The Sport Auto Supertest is then eagerly awaited as an independent verification or challenge of those manufacturers claims.

Sport Auto’s Nissan GT-R Supertest is due to be published in the upcoming weeks having recently been run after the first German / Euro specification Nissan GT-R deliveries. At the hands of editor Horst von Saurma (HvS) the GT-R is rumored to have produced a laptime of 7:38.

It’s no news to our readers that Nissan Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki has recently managed to push the GT-R to a 7:26.7 laptime, some 11-12 seconds quicker than HvS. Does this call into doubt the validity of Nissan’s claim? I argue the opposite and actually feel this lends more credibility to Nissan’s laptimes.

Given Suzuki-san’s obvious headstart of having developed the car from the beginning and having made hundreds of laps at the ‘Ring in the GT-R it is not a surprise he is quicker than a magazine editor around the same track. Even if that magazine editor is the veteran of hundreds of his own laps in various other cars.

So Sport Auto manages 7:38 but let’s revive a dead horse for some more beating… Porsche has claimed in the past that they could not do better than 7:54, despite proof from Nissan, and have recently backed themselves again and repeated the comment. Any comment from Porsche on this most recent test….. ?

Qship5
05-30-2009, 11:06 PM
You trying to stir up trouble Snowball???

snowball
05-31-2009, 10:54 AM
You trying to stir up trouble Snowball???

No, saw this great article, touting how great the GT-R is and was just passing it on. Why:questionmark:

GTCole
06-02-2009, 07:27 AM
What makes this car run "The Ring" faster than a 997 TT? The turbo is quicker and faster by just a tad, has AWD, and weighs the same ish? Anyone with more knowledge know this technical stuff?

snowball
06-02-2009, 01:57 PM
:hahaha:What makes this car run "The Ring" faster than a 997 TT? The turbo is quicker and faster by just a tad, has AWD, and weighs the same ish? Anyone with more knowledge know this technical stuff?

It is probably those 20" Fancy Pants wheels the GT-R comes with.... :laugh:

GTCole
06-02-2009, 02:02 PM
:hahaha:

It is probably those 20" Fancy Pants wheels the GT-R comes with.... :laugh:

Well, now I know!

Raven
06-03-2009, 01:05 AM
:hahaha:

It is probably those 20" Fancy Pants wheels the GT-R comes with.... :laugh:

Yep, it's the knurled rim. :thumbsup2:

No high-drag-heavy-old-crap-we-found-in-the-janitor-closet-wheel-paint to slow it down. ;)

snowball
06-03-2009, 10:46 AM
:hahaha:Yep, it's the knurled rim. :thumbsup2:

No high-drag-heavy-old-crap-we-found-in-the-janitor-closet-wheel-paint to slow it down. ;)

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:D

jragan
06-03-2009, 11:05 AM
I believe Porsche had stated that the GTR couldn't have received that time with the stock wheels and tires... Which makes sense if one considers that if Nissan had, instead, fitted a smaller (19") wheel with a set of tires that maintained the same (or less) sidewall height, they'd end up with wheel+tire with possibly significantly less outside diameter which essentially means a reduction in gearing for added torque multiplication.

GTCole
06-03-2009, 11:14 AM
That's interesting. Wonder why Porsche didn't run their turbo under the same scenario?

mbowdo20
06-03-2009, 06:29 PM
We still haven't seen anyone take both cars out on the same day with the same driver.

GTCole
06-03-2009, 09:00 PM
We still haven't seen anyone take both cars out on the same day with the same driver.


And we won't. I'm not sure either manufacturer could afford the legal fees prior to the event.

Qship5
06-04-2009, 11:17 PM
I read a review where that did happen. The driver actually had faster times in the Porsche, but commented that it took 100% effort to do it while the GTR was only marginally slower and required far less effort to achieve those times.

Raven
06-05-2009, 01:18 AM
I read a review where that did happen. The driver actually had faster times in the Porsche, but commented that it took 100% effort to do it while the GTR was only marginally slower and required far less effort to achieve those times.

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