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DallasM5
03-11-2009, 01:03 AM
im debating whether or not i want to let him do some headers fabrication on my M5 because of certain "bad" stories i have heard. was hoping you guys could give me an opinion on this guy/shop. if you had a bad experience will you please share WHY and what went wrong, and if you had a good experience will you share as well. you usually hear the bad, and never the good.
i just dont want to have my m5 sitting at his shop for ages while i drive around in my beater.
thanks
-R
Blake
03-11-2009, 01:05 AM
...my exhaust has a few leaks........but if that's okay, go ahead....not.
Titanium 325
03-11-2009, 08:25 AM
I use him for maintenance for my car. I do not have any real performance upgrades to speak of, but he has always done good by me.
I have heard there are some people who are unhappy with him though. I just do not know the stories behind those either so I hope others share to give you a good frame of reference either way.
Crash
03-11-2009, 10:04 AM
If he couldn't do a simple exhaust system on Blake's car correctly are you really sure you want to trust him with a set of headers that are much more complicated to build? Not the place I would go. I haven't heard one good thing.
DallasM5
03-11-2009, 10:45 AM
If he couldn't do a simple exhaust system on Blake's car correctly are you really sure you want to trust him with a set of headers that are much more complicated to build? Not the place I would go. I haven't heard one good thing.
thats my mindset too, i just want to hear full stories, not "o i hate him" and no reasoning behind it.
Fubar
03-11-2009, 11:29 AM
I would ask at the meets. I a lot of people in this group are reluctant to speak ill of anyone in recorded media.
For those of us who have managed to save a few pennies, there are always those looking to hire a lawyer and take those pennies away.
DallasM5
03-11-2009, 11:52 AM
so whats the point of this forum then? we cant discuss experiences we've had with a certain shop? that is really dumb.
Titanium 325
03-11-2009, 12:21 PM
I understand Fubar's comments, but if you put a disclaimer like "this is my opinion based on the following...." you should be fine. But I am not a lawyer either.
I don't trash someone on the open forums by name when I can as I respect them as a business owner trying to do something. But I can state an opinion. ;) LOL Maybe someone can PM you their negative experiences.
Good luck man.
DallasM5
03-11-2009, 12:34 PM
I understand Fubar's comments, but if you put a disclaimer like "this is my opinion based on the following...." you should be fine. But I am not a lawyer either.
I don't trash someone on the open forums by name when I can as I respect them as a business owner trying to do something. But I can state an opinion. ;) LOL Maybe someone can PM you their negative experiences.
Good luck man.
if that shop didnt remedy the situation and you feel you got ****ed, by all means share. why would you want someone else to get ****ed. its one thing to have a bad experience and it be fixed, its another to have a bad experience and the shop completely screw you over.
ill straight up tell you what i think about the shops ive been to. i dont care what they think, if they are worried then theyll fix my ****.
its simple as that.
Fubar
03-11-2009, 12:50 PM
I have no personal experience with them. However, based on 3 people I know who have used them and their expeirece... I would steer clear.
I know that is not the detailed answer you want but as I said before, ask at the meets you will probable get more relevant information.
DallasM5
03-11-2009, 12:54 PM
I have no personal experience with them. However, based on 3 people I know who have used them and their expeirece... I would steer clear.
I know that is not the detailed answer you want but as I said before, ask at the meets you will probable get more relevant information.
not trying to be rude, and i appreciate your input, but im dropping the car off monday, or am suppose to. so i have time to pull the plug on this shin dig and save myself the headache. so that does not give me a lot of time to go to a meet and find out...especially not with this weather.
Qship5
03-11-2009, 12:57 PM
I also have no personal experience with Stett, but from what I have seen and heard from other members of this board I would cancel and go somewhere else.
Just my $.02
Titanium 325
03-11-2009, 01:28 PM
if that shop didnt remedy the situation and you feel you got ****ed, by all means share. why would you want someone else to get ****ed. its one thing to have a bad experience and it be fixed, its another to have a bad experience and the shop completely screw you over.
ill straight up tell you what i think about the shops ive been to. i dont care what they think, if they are worried then theyll fix my ****.
its simple as that.
To clarify, I have not had a bad experience with my BMW other then at the dealer (Classic) and that was unfortunate, but others swear by them. I had a few bad experiences with my Firebird Formula, but all worked out well in the end.
I was not avoiding your question, or trying to be vague, it just did not pertain directly to what you wanted to know.
DallasM5
03-11-2009, 03:27 PM
To clarify, I have not had a bad experience with my BMW other then at the dealer (Classic) and that was unfortunate, but others swear by them. I had a few bad experiences with my Firebird Formula, but all worked out well in the end.
I was not avoiding your question, or trying to be vague, it just did not pertain directly to what you wanted to know.
oh no i did not direct that statement directly at you. i was speaking out loud for someone else who may know something.
Bruce954
03-11-2009, 04:41 PM
However, based on 3 people I know who have used them and their expeirece... I would steer clear.
How much more info do you need :dontknow:
Sounds like its time to keep looking.
RaceMX-M3
03-11-2009, 08:13 PM
Based on what I've seen and heard from a few people I would strongly discourage letting Chad Stett touch your car.
Darren took his prior E60 M5 to Chad to install headers, race cats and a nos setup. The car was not ready when he said it would be, he installed O2 sensors on the cats from a 545, which have a different thread pattern and ruined the threads on the bungs, the wires that connect to the O2 sensors were completely cut off (causing a permanent CEL), the nos never worked properly and leaked at the nozzle under the hood. Chad cut out the plastic in the ashtray to install switches for the nos and they were just hanging in there loose. The nos bottle in the trunk was much larger than what Darren asked for and was scratched and looked used. The interior of Darren's car had grease all over it when we (yes I was there) picked up his car. Darren took his car back several times (again I know b/c I was the one picking up/dropping Darren off every time) and Chad never fully fixed Darren's car and didn't pay for stuff he jacked up, i.e. cut wires, O2 sensors, damaged ash tray, wrong nos bottle, etc. I can keep going if anyone wants to hear more.
Blake
03-11-2009, 08:38 PM
^^^ That pretty much sums it up. I'm sure I could go back to Chad and harp on him enough to get him to fix my exhaust, but I would rather bite the bullet and pay to have a real professional take care of it. He's notorious around town for cutting corners and overbooking himself while holding your car hostage for weeks. That's pretty much the short and long of it.
darren_dallas
03-11-2009, 08:39 PM
Here is my opinion and facts of my M5 which I personally let Stett work on:
1. I had him weld in race cats and they welds were embarrassing and below sub par. They leaked horribly.
2. Stett welded the exhaust cross bar to my M5 sub-frame because he lost the screw. I had to pay the dealer to fix it.
3. He tried to install a NOS kit on my M5 which never worked...literally. I had it uninstalled after a few days since it did nothing but throw the CEL.
4. After Stett worked on my car numerous (not an exaggeration) screws were missing from my engine bay. I guess he either lost them or just forgot to install them back into the appropriate plastic secure points. Dealer had to correct all of it.
5. He installed the incorrect O2 sensors into my exhaust after trying to relocate/extend my wiring harness behind my secondary cats. Once again, my dealer corrected and was able to get everything properly working.
I could go on with a few more items, but I think you should be getting the picture now. I haven't begun to share with you my opinion of his work...I've kept that to myself in this post, but I'm sure you can imagine how I personally feel about him and the quality of his work.
I feel duped and like a moron for taking my $100k car to such a small-time, unprofessional shop. Don't make the same mistake I did just to try and save a buck on the hourly rate on the front end. It ended up costing me more to have all his mistakes corrected down the road.
Come to the meet on Saturday and we can definitely recommend you to at least two other places with absolutely professional work and standards.
Hope this was helpful.
RaceMX-M3
03-11-2009, 08:42 PM
If you want headers installed on your M5 I would get a recognized/reputable brand, i.e. Supersprint, Evosport. I would recommend having Classic BMW do the install. They now work on Darren's car exclusively and we can hook you up with the tech that works on Darren's (also Chris') cars.
Blake
03-11-2009, 08:44 PM
Or Autoscope if you don't feel like wringing your wallet out as much.
hey darren, can you PM me the name of the guy(s) that work on your car? Thanks!
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 12:29 AM
Based on what I've seen and heard from a few people I would strongly discourage letting Chad Stett touch your car.
Darren took his prior E60 M5 to Chad to install headers, race cats and a nos setup. The car was not ready when he said it would be, he installed O2 sensors on the cats from a 545, which have a different thread pattern and ruined the threads on the bungs, the wires that connect to the O2 sensors were completely cut off (causing a permanent CEL), the nos never worked properly and leaked at the nozzle under the hood. Chad cut out the plastic in the ashtray to install switches for the nos and they were just hanging in there loose. The nos bottle in the trunk was much larger than what Darren asked for and was scratched and looked used. The interior of Darren's car had grease all over it when we (yes I was there) picked up his car. Darren took his car back several times (again I know b/c I was the one picking up/dropping Darren off every time) and Chad never fully fixed Darren's car and didn't pay for stuff he jacked up, i.e. cut wires, O2 sensors, damaged ash tray, wrong nos bottle, etc. I can keep going if anyone wants to hear more.
go on, please. :bandit:
How much more info do you need :dontknow:
Sounds like its time to keep looking.
i like to give shops the benefit of the doubt.
Here is my opinion and facts of my M5 which I personally let Stett work on:
1. I had him weld in race cats and they welds were embarrassing and below sub par. They leaked horribly.
2. Stett welded the exhaust cross bar to my M5 sub-frame because he lost the screw. I had to pay the dealer to fix it.
3. He tried to install a NOS kit on my M5 which never worked...literally. I had it uninstalled after a few days since it did nothing but throw the CEL.
4. After Stett worked on my car numerous (not an exaggeration) screws were missing from my engine bay. I guess he either lost them or just forgot to install them back into the appropriate plastic secure points. Dealer had to correct all of it.
5. He installed the incorrect O2 sensors into my exhaust after trying to relocate/extend my wiring harness behind my secondary cats. Once again, my dealer corrected and was able to get everything properly working.
I could go on with a few more items, but I think you should be getting the picture now. I haven't begun to share with you my opinion of his work...I've kept that to myself in this post, but I'm sure you can imagine how I personally feel about him and the quality of his work.
I feel duped and like a moron for taking my $100k car to such a small-time, unprofessional shop. Don't make the same mistake I did just to try and save a buck on the hourly rate on the front end. It ended up costing me more to have all his mistakes corrected down the road.
Come to the meet on Saturday and we can definitely recommend you to at least two other places with absolutely professional work and standards.
Hope this was helpful.
wow thanks for the info darren, thats really F'd up he screwed you over. but he seemed like the type who works on his clock. which is what wont fly with me.
If you want headers installed on your M5 I would get a recognized/reputable brand, i.e. Supersprint, Evosport. I would recommend having Classic BMW do the install. They now work on Darren's car exclusively and we can hook you up with the tech that works on Darren's (also Chris') cars.
no the install is not the issue, i have access to anything i would need far as install goes. i can do all the diy stuff myself if it involves a wrench, which is what the SS headers involve. they are completely bolt on but the motor needs to be lift for clearance. but thats another story, point is id never take my car in for work, ever. unless it was cams or something along the lines of welding.
i appreciate the info, if you guys have any more, please feel free to post. id be interested to hear it.
RaceMX-M3
03-12-2009, 02:20 AM
I think everyone has pretty much offered their 2 cents. You can now proceed with the benefit of being informed.
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 08:58 AM
I think everyone has pretty much offered their 2 cents. You can now proceed with the benefit of being informed.
yea im ordering SS headers lol
Fubar
03-12-2009, 09:13 AM
lol
darren_dallas
03-12-2009, 09:49 AM
yea im ordering SS headers lol
Good choice and that is what I have also by the way.
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 10:35 AM
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/Intake_Exhaust/ss/786801_lg.gif
must resist the force
:ahhhhh:
lol
Crash
03-12-2009, 11:07 AM
Remind me never to argue with you cause it'd be a lot like this.. :banghead:
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 11:07 AM
Remind me never to argue with you cause it'd be a lot like this.. :banghead:
why is that?
i simply asked for an opinion on a shop and people were to scared to share.
based off what ive seen there's always someone out there with a negative opinion towards a shop.
in another thread scott posted how stuarts did a bad job, my car is a great example of what that shop can do provided you give them time and an incentive. with stuarts you are damn well going to get what you pay for. if you can pick out where my car was hit then ill buy you dinner where ever you want. my orange peel, paint flake, metallic flake, and everything else are perfect. i also had everything painted loose so no tape lines or anything of that sort.
to simply say oh that shop sucks is really ignorant. a good reason behind it and the shop not fixing the issue is what i was looking for.
using stuarts as an example again, my pass front door was blended and a stretch mark came up, they stood behind their work and fixed it. dropped my car off at 10 tuesday, got it back the next day at 3. so thats a turn around time of less then 24 work hours to reblend the door and reclear the entire door.
now if stuarts had said screw you like stett basically has, then i would have an issue, but no, they stood behind their work and honored the repair in amazing time.
Bruce954
03-12-2009, 11:15 AM
Remind me never to argue with you cause it'd be a lot like this.. :banghead:
.x2
snowball
03-12-2009, 11:17 AM
remind me never to argue with you cause it'd be a lot like this.. :banghead:
+1 yep
Crash
03-12-2009, 11:19 AM
I get what you're saying, trust me I do, but at the same to time dig and dig and dig after what I thought would be sufficient info is where the head banging came from. Trust me I'm scared of most shops around town touching my Shelby. I need a good paint shop that isn't going to charge me out the A$$ to fix my hood properly and I'm terrified of most tuners in this town. It may just be that you require more convincing than I do. Hell I heard that HPP installed one set of parts in a car and said they installed another set of parts and the motor failed and said well you blew it up to the customer. That was enough for me. One horror story is plenty for me when it comes to my cars.
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 11:27 AM
I get what you're saying, trust me I do, but at the same to time dig and dig and dig after what I thought would be sufficient info is where the head banging came from. Trust me I'm scared of most shops around town touching my Shelby. I need a good paint shop that isn't going to charge me out the A$$ to fix my hood properly and I'm terrified of most tuners in this town. It may just be that you require more convincing than I do. Hell I heard that HPP installed one set of parts in a car and said they installed another set of parts and the motor failed and said well you blew it up to the customer. That was enough for me. One horror story is plenty for me when it comes to my cars.
i see what you're saying, all i wanted was the opinion of members who had been to stett and exactly why they were not happy. i like to give others the benefit of the doubt before i take my business elsewhere, and based off my research ive found that stett pretty much does what he wants, when he wants, and could care less about the customer.
now imagine if you were the shop owner, would you want someone turned away by simply 2 bad experiences on 1 forum? that would be a little unfair, no? especially if all those guys said is "your shop sucks." but ive also asked around elsewhere and the results are pretty much the same.
im sorry for bringing this up, i did not know that asking WHY people were pissed would upset members on here. i guess the logic in that statement went right over my head. ill be sure to keep opinions/questions to myself since the vibe here to share info isnt really positive.
Crash
03-12-2009, 11:35 AM
I think you're taking what I'm saying wrong. And if I were a shop owner and business started falling off, I'd start evaluating my performance first. Word of mouth is the most powerful form of advertising and it can make a break a shop. You're opinions and questions are as valuable here as anyone else's, but at the same time if you're looking for a specific answer or explanation, maybe ask differently. Just my humble opinion, if you met me you'd know I'm not a d!ck nor am I trying to be one. This is a very knowledgeable group and have a lot to offer and I really don't think you upset anyone.
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 11:41 AM
I think you're taking what I'm saying wrong. And if I were a shop owner and business started falling off, I'd start evaluating my performance first. Word of mouth is the most powerful form of advertising and it can make a break a shop. You're opinions and questions are as valuable here as anyone else's, but at the same time if you're looking for a specific answer or explanation, maybe ask differently. Just my humble opinion, if you met me you'd know I'm not a d!ck nor am I trying to be one. This is a very knowledgeable group and have a lot to offer and I really don't think you upset anyone.
i dont even know what we are talking about now.
i appreciate your time and help for all the info in here, and if ive offended someone or come off the wrong way im sorry.
thank you
-R
LanceFitzgiben
03-12-2009, 01:41 PM
Raza,
as per Gustav, (who has full ss exhaust, headers to tips):
"The four different "pipes" can be separated since that makes installation much easier and you do not have to lift the engine of the car when the all parts are not in one piece."
- Tim
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 02:06 PM
Raza,
as per Gustav, (who has full ss exhaust, headers to tips):
"The four different "pipes" can be separated since that makes installation much easier and you do not have to lift the engine of the car when the all parts are not in one piece."
- Tim
thanks for the info tim, i know the SS can be installed with ease, the install is the easy part, the removal of the OE exhaust is the pita part.
ill figure something out whenever the goodies come in.
-R
Rob1796
03-12-2009, 02:46 PM
thanks for the info tim, i know the SS can be installed with ease, the install is the easy part, the removal of the OE exhaust is the pita part.
ill figure something out whenever the goodies come in.
-R
Are you planning on keeping/going back to the stock exhaust?
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 03:00 PM
Are you planning on keeping/going back to the stock exhaust?
i have B&B triflo mufflers right now with stock setup, i havent decided on what else to add with the headers. i thought about a Xpipe, but nothing is set in stone right now.
Rob1796
03-12-2009, 03:10 PM
i have B&B triflo mufflers right now with stock setup, i havent decided on what else to add with the headers. i thought about a Xpipe, but nothing is set in stone right now.
Ah ok. I was thinking if you weren't going to keep the stock headers, then trust me and cut them out. Doing headers on a good friend's IS300, the way the cats were located on them we couldnt drop them out the bottom on jack stands, nor pull them out through the top (too wide). So, we just unbolteded the headers from the stock midpipe and went to town on 'em. Cut them in about five different places, and they slid right out. If we had a lift, we probably wouldn't of had that problem, but garage tuning is so much more fun.
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 03:16 PM
i have access to an engine and 4 point car lift. so clearance shouldnt be to much of an issue, nor is a lack of tools.
LanceFitzgiben
03-12-2009, 03:37 PM
Raza.. hadn't thought about removal of oe manifolds.. i guess you could cut them out (good suggestion) though gustav had his removed whole. maybe I'll PM him and find out what it entailed
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 04:04 PM
gustav did the whole works so he didnt mess with anything. he replaced his setup with the ss headers, cats, xpipe, and mufflers. if you go with everything SS then its completely bolt on.
as far as i know i think ill have to have the cats welded onto the headers, or run a pipe inbetween them...hell ill figure something out.
i need to get the car on a dyno here.
darren_dallas
03-12-2009, 04:56 PM
Cutting out the primary cats on our stock E60/E63 headers is not an easy job. You better make sure you have a jig setup to help with the removal and most importantly the installation of the straight pipe you want to put in it's place. I only know of 3 places which do this right now.
If you can do it and prove to me it works with your local setup here, I'm sure a few others would want to do the same thing.
Regards,
Darren
LanceFitzgiben
03-12-2009, 06:04 PM
Darren
we are talking about headers on E39 M series vehicles, rather than E60. The stock E39 manifolds are slightly more "flat" than the E60s, though neither generation offers up much room for removal and installation.. Are the SS headers for the E60 one fixed unit or do they come with all the primaries separated, as with the E39 headers? How have the headers on your E60s gone in/out? I haven't yet gotten a reply from Gustav, detailing his header install; but I will report back here when I get it. (for the sake of other E39ers)
Thanks
- Tim
DallasM5
03-12-2009, 08:11 PM
gustav didnt install his ss headers, what would he possibly know. he had someone else do it.
darren_dallas
03-12-2009, 08:14 PM
Darren
we are talking about headers on E39 M series vehicles, rather than E60. The stock E39 manifolds are slightly more "flat" than the E60s, though neither generation offers up much room for removal and installation.. Are the SS headers for the E60 one fixed unit or do they come with all the primaries separated, as with the E39 headers? How have the headers on your E60s gone in/out? I haven't yet gotten a reply from Gustav, detailing his header install; but I will report back here when I get it. (for the sake of other E39ers)
Thanks
- Tim
Ok, sorry I thought you were talking current gen M5/6. The E60 headers on my car from Supersprint come with individual tubes for each cylinder which get held in place by a "ring set" and merge into a single collector unit. Each tube is attached (installed) to the cylinder exhaust port individually (along with a gasket) to aid in the installation process. Other header designs (such as Evosport) are one single unit which means the engine must be dropped a little to install.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Darren
LanceFitzgiben
03-12-2009, 08:45 PM
Thanks Darren, no worries about the model confusion.. given we hadn't stated specifically which vehicles we were talking about. The E39 SS headers are also set up with individual primaries to aid install.. I am going to talk to my tech on saturday about doing the SS headers on my car.. though I think suspension is first.
cheers
DallasM5
03-13-2009, 10:51 AM
woot woot just picked up some HRE 540R too!!!!
Rob1796
03-13-2009, 11:23 AM
woot woot just picked up some HRE 540R too!!!!
Win...540Rs are seeexy. What colour?
DallasM5
03-13-2009, 11:46 AM
i believe they are mirror silver right now, but i may have them redone in this fiinish.
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/wheelsperformancecom_2040_354024694
LanceFitzgiben
03-13-2009, 01:18 PM
raza
i know that gustav didn't do his header install.. i just know he was there when it all happened.
Rob1796
03-13-2009, 02:07 PM
Oh....do want the wheels...
Can't wait to see how it all turns out. I'd love to hear an uncorked E39 M.
Blake
03-13-2009, 05:38 PM
I'm Stett-free now! Today, I had a real exhaust shop put a set of stock mufflers (thanks to Dennis aka Babaganush) with the no secondary cats or resonators and it actually sounds pretty good. Quiet during normal driving but sporty when I get on the fun pedal. :thumbsup2:
Qship5
03-13-2009, 05:41 PM
why is that?
i simply asked for an opinion on a shop and people were to scared to share.
based off what ive seen there's always someone out there with a negative opinion towards a shop.
in another thread scott posted how stuarts did a bad job, my car is a great example of what that shop can do provided you give them time and an incentive. with stuarts you are damn well going to get what you pay for. if you can pick out where my car was hit then ill buy you dinner where ever you want. my orange peel, paint flake, metallic flake, and everything else are perfect. i also had everything painted loose so no tape lines or anything of that sort.
to simply say oh that shop sucks is really ignorant. a good reason behind it and the shop not fixing the issue is what i was looking for.
using stuarts as an example again, my pass front door was blended and a stretch mark came up, they stood behind their work and fixed it. dropped my car off at 10 tuesday, got it back the next day at 3. so thats a turn around time of less then 24 work hours to reblend the door and reclear the entire door.
now if stuarts had said screw you like stett basically has, then i would have an issue, but no, they stood behind their work and honored the repair in amazing time.
So am I allowed to bring a paint meter when evaluating your repair for this wager?
DallasM5
03-13-2009, 11:54 PM
So am I allowed to bring a paint meter when evaluating your repair for this wager?
a paint gauge will ALWAYS pickup a difference, if you can pick out what all i had done without a gauge or find a shop that will match clear coat thickness AND be able to keep the orange peel the same. then ill eat my words, but thats not going to happen any time soon.
;)
Crash
03-14-2009, 03:05 AM
I'm Stett-free now! Today, I had a real exhaust shop put a set of stock mufflers (thanks to Dennis aka Babaganush) with the no secondary cats or resonators and it actually sounds pretty good. Quiet during normal driving but sporty when I get on the fun pedal. :thumbsup2:
Will it throw a code without the secondary cats?
Blake
03-14-2009, 03:06 AM
Will it throw a code without the secondary cats?
No. The O2 sensors are directly after the primary cats.
Crash
03-14-2009, 03:08 AM
Awesome I want to hear it. PM me where and how much this cost. I was thinking of having my mufflers removed and just running straight pipes from the mid pipe back.
Blake
03-14-2009, 03:11 AM
Awesome I want to hear it. PM me where and how much this cost. I was thinking of having my mufflers removed and just running straight pipes from the mid pipe back.
It sounds great actually. When you're zipping around, it sounds sorta like a V8 E46 M3 stock type exhaust...it's got that rasp, but sounds really sporty. I'll come up to Addison one day when you're working next week and show you. Not only that, but the car feels 10x smoother because I'm not being rattled around anymore.
He f%CKed up my Gruppe M exhaust for my m3 plus many other stories!!!
Rob1796
03-20-2009, 11:04 AM
He f%CKed up my Gruppe M exhaust for my m3 plus many other stories!!!
I'm assuming like most exhausts, its bolt on. You have to WORK to screw up an exhaust install...
DallasM5
03-20-2009, 02:59 PM
It sounds great actually. When you're zipping around, it sounds sorta like a V8 E46 M3 stock type exhaust...it's got that rasp, but sounds really sporty. I'll come up to Addison one day when you're working next week and show you. Not only that, but the car feels 10x smoother because I'm not being rattled around anymore.
V8 e46 m3 stock type exhaust...wth are you talking about blake?
Blake
03-20-2009, 03:05 PM
V8 e46 m3 stock type exhaust...wth are you talking about blake?
The rasp. It sounds similar to E46 M3 rasp but beefier.
I'm assuming like most exhausts, its bolt on. You have to WORK to screw up an exhaust install...
You are exactly right!!!! It was a bolt on system; before he even tried to put it up against the stock section he said it would not fit and that he would need to make some cuts on the exhaust, in which I trusted him, and he proceeded to do. After he made the cuts and tried to fit the exhaust I think he realized his mistake, in which he then told me he would need a few days with the exhaust and my car to have it installed correctly with no leaks :thumpdown:
After hearing this and being very disappointed, I took my exhaust down the street to another local muffler shop. They had to weld on the attachment piece in which he cut off; after that it was plug and play; no fitment issues. They got the job done in about an hour!
Blake
03-23-2009, 02:29 PM
You are exactly right!!!! It was a bolt on system; before he even tried to put it up against the stock section he said it would not fit and that he would need to make some cuts on the exhaust, in which I trusted him, and he proceeded to do. After he made the cuts and tried to fit the exhaust I think he realized his mistake, in which he then told me he would need a few days with the exhaust and my car to have it installed correctly with no leaks :thumpdown:
After hearing this and being very disappointed, I took my exhaust down the street to another local muffler shop. They had to weld on the attachment piece in which he cut off; after that it was plug and play; no fitment issues. They got the job done in about an hour!
Sounds frighteningly similar to my experience.
Wow I'm glad I know all this now! There used to be a kid schneid or something, who had a 335i and i remember him telling me they royally F'd it up
DallasM5
03-23-2009, 04:02 PM
Wow I'm glad I know all this now! There used to be a kid schneid or something, who had a 335i and i remember him telling me they royally F'd it up
haha jewbacca....:bird:
sk330i
04-02-2009, 05:11 PM
Good thing i read this. i was about to let him hook up an exhaust and intake for my 330i.
Red Baron
04-09-2009, 05:50 PM
Until today, I thought he could only do Plug & Play parts, but apparently I was wrong hearing all of this. :(
I did my Euro OEM headers and cats, short shifter, exhaust and for major(none so far) things Classic BMW does very good by me. :thumbsup2:
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