***CANCELLED*** - DFWAC Track Day at Eagle's Canyon - March 24

[RaceMX-M3]

Classic BMW has scheduled a full day track event for the DFWAC at ECR :thumbsup2:

Date: Wednesday, March 24
Time: 8:00am - 4:00pm
Location: Eagles Canyon Raceway
Available Classes: Beginner, Novice, Advanced
Schedule: TBA
Track Sessions: Unlimited
Instructors: YES
Lunch: Provided
Registration before Feb 25th: $199
Registration after Feb 25th: $249
Payment Options: Cash, check, Paypal to paypal@dfwautoclub.com

The schedule for the day will be determined by how many participate and how many drivers we have in each class. We need at least 20 people to commit to coming to make this work and will limit the number of participants to provide everyone with as much time on the track as they want. I will confirm, but race fuel should be available for purchase and lunch will be included.

If you want to participate in the event please reply or send me a pm asap and let me know your skill level and whether you want an instructor available. A $100 deposit is required to reserve your slot , we will confirm final attendance and collect the balance prior to the event. We would enjoy seeing as many DFWAC members as possible participate in the track event and will reach out to other local track enthusiasts if we need additional cars.

Who's planning to attend?

1. RaceMX-M3
2. Fubar
3. rberg32
4. mrs.rberg32
5. citylightva
6. jram
7. zinia
8. Bobby E
9. remshot11
10. flyinmedic
11. sheesnaz
12. M3smgii2002
13. Louis
14.Mike CLK Black
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Paid Entrees

1. RaceMX-M3
2. Fubar
3. zinia
4. Bobby E
5. sheesnaz
6. flyinmedic
7. jram
8. Mike CLK Black
9. citylightva
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[Mr. Hollywood]

What, No Texas Mile for you? :turtle:

[Zinia]

I'm pretty sure I'm in for this, even though Wednesdays are the worst day for me. I'll let you know on Saturday Scott.

[RaceMX-M3]

What, No Texas Mile for you? :turtle:

Doubt it, this is 10x more fun. Anyone know where I can get one of these cars?

VdInXQhcFEA

[Fubar]

I'd be interested in this.

No mile for me this spring. I was very disappointed this fall when my car pooped out on me. I am going to wait until I have some tested miles on it before I try this setup again.

[Zinia]

Anyone know where I can get one of these cars?



http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/mf.htm

:D

[citylightva]

What, No Texas Mile for you? :turtle:

You've got a whole day to get down to Goliad after this :whistle:

[rberg32]

I'm in! Put me down for "professional". Let me know how much prize money is available for me to win.

[RaceMX-M3]

I'm in! Put me down for "professional". Let me know how much prize money is available for me to win.

ok.. lol, not sure how many wanna take on a Scuderia. Your wife coming too or just you?

[citylightva]

I'm in for novice with my fat piggy car..!! I want no part of the Scud...LOL

[jsbkg]

tempting!!!!

[citylightva]

Scott, do you know the tech requirements for this or should I just look on their site..??

[citylightva]

NM I got the form....

[rberg32]

I think my wife would go as well..

[Silentrun]

Checking the schedule but I will be there if it's an open day.

[Mike CLK Black]

Travel conflict with work, can't make it.
I was so hoping to get run down by a Scud.

[RaceMX-M3]

Travel conflict with work, can't make it.
I was so hoping to get run down by a Scud.

Sorry to hear Mike, we'll do our best to describe the experience. :)

[mk2tmr2]

Very interested. I'll have to take a look at the calendar closer to the event. What's the final cut-off date for hand-raisers?

[BlackSheep]

I can't commit untill a closer date, If I can pull it off, count me in. I should know about 2weeks before the event.

[RaceMX-M3]

Very interested. I'll have to take a look at the calendar closer to the event. What's the final cut-off date for hand-raisers?

We need to know who's planning on attending asap. I will contact Classic's race team manager and get a firm cutoff date, but I would imagine we will need to have a confirmed (paid) list at least 30 days before the event (maybe sooner).

[jram]

Count me in! :beer:

[flyinmedic]

I would like to go, I am trying to get the day off work. Put me in for novice

[UBR32]

If you don't have enough cars I can open it up the NTAG (North Texas Audi Group).

I am also interested, but will need to talk to the wife before I can confirm.

[RaceMX-M3]

If you don't have enough cars I can open it up the NTAG (North Texas Audi Group).

I am also interested, but will need to talk to the wife before I can confirm.

Sure, go ahead and post it. It would be nice to get at least 20 cars so everyone can save a little cash.

[citylightva]

When do you need our deposits Scott..??

[RaceMX-M3]

When do you need our deposits Scott..??

I'm going to have to give Classic a commitment in the next couple of weeks so sooner is better. If there isn't enough interest and the event is scrapped everyone will get full refunds.

[AMG]

I'm interested as well as long as it doesn't conflict with work. Is the deposit refundable? It's hard planing something so far in advance

[RaceMX-M3]

I'm interested as well as long as it doesn't conflict with work. Is the deposit refundable? It's hard planing something so far in advance

The deposit is refundable if the event is cancelled. Otherwise it is transferrable.

[SAFE4NOW]

Will Classic have their own group of drivers out at the same time as well?

Who choses the group we will be in?

Steve

[citylightva]

ONe last question...Is it rain or shine..?? or rescheduled for rain..?

[RaceMX-M3]

Will Classic have their own group of drivers out at the same time as well?

Who choses the group we will be in?

Steve

No, we have the track to ourselves. Since this is our own private event we have flexibility with regards to how the classes are defined - however I'm sure we will not stray much from the qualifications used at other track events.

[RaceMX-M3]

ONe last question...Is it rain or shine..?? or rescheduled for rain..?

I would hope we could reschedule in the event of rain, however I will confirm this.

[jragan]

Track events are almost always rain or shine as you'll tend to learn more when driving wet... If you're worried, bring some dry cleaner bags and pull them over your seats.

[SAFE4NOW]

No, we have the track to ourselves. Since this is our own private event we have flexibility with regards to how the classes are defined - however I'm sure we will not stray much from the qualifications used at other track events.

Thank you sir.

S

[SAFE4NOW]

Track events are almost always rain or shine as you'll tend to learn more when driving wet... If you're worried, bring some dry cleaner bags and pull them over your seats.

Ditto. Running in the rain forces you to slow down and become smoother in your actions.

We did a mixed bag ( AMG / M / S-Line ) event with a Lotus thrown in for good measure at MSR. Rained 90% of the event.

Was an eye opener for alot of the drivers.

S

[Silentrun]

MSR is like ice when wet...a puckering learning curve in the wet.

[citylightva]

Oh don't get me wrong, I totally agree with everyone about wet driving. Did that many a time at Summit Point and VIR. I'm just more curious about my car's outright dry handling right now.

[mk2tmr2]

Sure, go ahead and post it. It would be nice to get at least 20 cars so everyone can save a little cash.

If worse comes to worse, I can let the DFW Miata guys know about it. They eat up discounted track time and tend to be pretty experienced (eg. will not be annoying/in the way)

Perhaps if there's a threat of cancellation due to low attendance we can open it up to them.

[RaceMX-M3]

If worse comes to worse, I can let the DFW Miata guys know about it. They eat up discounted track time and tend to be pretty experienced (eg. will not be annoying/in the way)

Perhaps if there's a threat of cancellation due to low attendance we can open it up to them.

Fine with me, I doubt we're going to have any problems with too many cars and definitely would like to keep the per car expense to a minimum. If anyone else wants post this elsewhere you can just have them email me at scott@dfwautoclub.com

[citylightva]

I would like to go, I am trying to get the day off work. Put me in for novice

You can definitely take the Z06 out in front of me :burnout: haha

[goofygrin]

If worse comes to worse, I can let the DFW Miata guys know about it. They eat up discounted track time and tend to be pretty experienced (eg. will not be annoying/in the way)

Perhaps if there's a threat of cancellation due to low attendance we can open it up to them.

I wouldn't call this a "discounted" rate honestly.

An Apex event is $195/day. A ECR open track day (on a Saturday) is $150 + tax.

This is on a weekday (hard to get off work) and $200 on the low end.

When you're talking about inviting people with $2k cars, the definition of "cheap track time" shifts greatly ::D

[Zinia]

It looks like I'm going to need to get a new helmet. Preferably one that doesn't have a big Harley eagle across the front of it.

[RaceMX-M3]

I'm just going to bring one of my Shoei MX helmets. :)

[Zinia]

I'm just going to bring one of my Shoei MX helmets. :)

Don't they have a different rating than what's required at ECR?

[mpulse]

I think ecr requires a snell m2000 / sa2000 or higher.
I also think I might sign up with CRASH tomorrow.

B-rad

[RaceMX-M3]

Classic may have a few helmets available (just a guess) but I will check.

[citylightva]

B-rad is right...m/sa 2000 or 2005...Pyrotect has a nice $250 SA2005...

[RaceMX-M3]

B-rad is right...m/sa 2000 or 2005...Pyrotect has a nice $250 SA2005...

is m2000 and sa2000 required? or is it ok to have one and not the other?

[citylightva]

is m2000 and sa2000 required? or is it ok to have one and not the other?

OH no, it's either or...Here you'll need this anyways :D http://www.eaglescanyon.com/2008/forms.php Tech sheet...

[Qship5]

Wet track = smooth driving or you lose it. MSR when wet is a real tricky course with a rear drive torque laden car. I've never driven EC and will be in on this as soon as I can confirm that I'll have my new wheels before then.

[RaceMX-M3]

OH no, it's either or...Here you'll need this anyways :D http://www.eaglescanyon.com/2008/forms.php Tech sheet...

ok then my Shoei is good. :thumbsup2:

[Zinia]

Classic may have a few helmets available (just a guess) but I will check.

Thanks Scott.

I was thinking about wearing my skull bucket with the spike on the top but I don't want to rip my soft top.

http://www.ironhorsehelmets.com/images/New%20Pictures/germanflatspikebig.jpg

[Crash]

Hmm TX2K10 the week before then this.....I gotta check to see if I can get that time off.

[goofygrin]

If you're buying a helmet, I strongly recommend you get an SA2005 rated helmet. It will work for ANY club on any track. A M or SA2000 rated helmet will soon be not allowed.

DOT helmets are definitely not allowed anywhere.

[Fubar]

If you're buying a helmet, I strongly recommend you get an SA2005 rated helmet. It will work for ANY club on any track. A M or SA2000 rated helmet will soon be not allowed.

DOT helmets are definitely not allowed anywhere.

Good advice.

I would also add that trying on different brands makes a big difference, you never know which one will fit your face the best. Lastly, you'll want to get something lightweight as it will give your neck muscles a workout. After a few turns on the track (especially in hot weather) you can get fatigued really easy.

I would go by Smiley's Race shop (http://www.smileysracing.com/locations.php) to try stuff on. Even if you don't buy it there, they have a big selection of sizes and brands to try out.

[Qship5]

If you want a really light weight helmet, HJC has two that are made with a full carbon fiber shell. They are super light, and also save driver weight by emptying your wallet.:D

[Mike CLK Black]

If you're buying a helmet, I strongly recommend you get an SA2005 rated helmet. It will work for ANY club on any track. A M or SA2000 rated helmet will soon be not allowed.
....

New helmets that meet the 2010 standard are available.

Edit: That was info I received from Lamb Honda back in mid December. It turns out (after some checking) that the new standard won't be available until the Fall of 2010. Sorry for any confusion.

[Fubar]

interesting harness kit for BMWs
http://soloracer.com/bmw.html

[citylightva]

They say this is worth .5 second a lap :laugh:...And just think you have the ONLY one...:whistle:

http://www.capture3d.com/applications-reveng-Model-helmet.html

[GTCole]

Nice post on 6 speed. Any takers? I would come if it wasn't the day before leaving to the TX Mile. Sorry.

[Invisibra_Norm]

Does the track allow a rider/passenger? (I know, it'll throw off people's times, doh!)

[SAFE4NOW]

Nice post on 6 speed. Any takers? I would come if it wasn't the day before leaving to the TX Mile. Sorry.

Bring another car.... If I can make it you can!

Steve

[RaceMX-M3]

I spoke with a some guys at the meet this morning and it looks like quite a few people are waiting to see what the attendace and final cost will be before comitting. We are going to need a minimum number of confirmed registrations by Feb 24th (30 days out) so here's what we've decided to do. The entry fee will be a flat $199 for everyone that registers and pays before Feb 25th, registration between 2/25 - 3/24 will be $249. A minimum of 20 paid registrations will be required to move forward with the track day - if we have to cancel for any reason everyone will receive a full refund. Hopefully this will make the decision to participate a lot easier for everyone. :thumbsup2:

[citylightva]

I was gonna give you my deposit today...but then I slept and it rained :laugh: I'll bring it to C & C....

[Qship5]

They say this is worth .5 second a lap :laugh:...And just think you have the ONLY one...:whistle:

http://www.capture3d.com/applications-reveng-Model-helmet.html

The improved aerodymanics won't help much if you're not in an open wheel car...:bandit:

[citylightva]

The improved aerodymanics won't help much if you're not in an open wheel car...:bandit:

My sarcasm always gets lost when I post ;) I'll just put all my windows down...:p

[Babaganush]

Guys, I'm a member up there and can help answer some questions.

Yes, ECR does allow passengers but they need to have a helmet...and a strong stomach.

ECR is not very strict about checking specs on helmets but I would suggest going with a good DOT approved helmet for your safety. Motorcycle helmets work just fine.

ECR is very slick if it's wet. Especially in the race line. I've been out there with BMW as an instructor for a wet day and I can tell you we had quite a few students go into low speed spin outs with only a light rain coming down. You must have traction control fully on.

If you're new to the track, you really need to sit with an instructor for a few sessions or do plenty of lead and follows. The track has some blind corners and it will take at least a couple sessions before you can safely manage your way around.

Unlike MSR, this track has some really big braking corners and it's imperative that you have your brakes up to the task. Make sure you've recently changed your fluid and that your pads are in good shape.

By the way, I'll be up there tomorrow (taking the bike). Anyone is more than welcome to drive out there and check out the track....members are usually more than happy to take passengers around for a few laps (but remember to bring a helmet). Also, if anyone is interested in going as my guest tomorrow and does have some track experience, feel free to send me a PM.

[RaceMX-M3]

Guys, I'm a member up there and can help answer some questions.

Yes, ECR does allow passengers but they need to have a helmet...and a strong stomach.

ECR is not very strict about checking specs on helmets but I would suggest going with a good DOT approved helmet for your safety. Motorcycle helmets work just fine.

ECR is very slick if it's wet. Especially in the race line. I've been out there with BMW as an instructor for a wet day and I can tell you we had quite a few students go into low speed spin outs with only a light rain coming down. You must have traction control fully on.

If you're new to the track, you really need to sit with an instructor for a few sessions or do plenty of lead and follows. The track has some blind corners and it will take at least a couple sessions before you can safely manage your way around.

Unlike MSR, this track has some really big braking corners and it's imperative that you have your brakes up to the task. Make sure you've recently changed your fluid and that your pads are in good shape.

By the way, I'll be up there tomorrow (taking the bike). Anyone is more than welcome to drive out there and check out the track....members are usually more than happy to take passengers around for a few laps (but remember to bring a helmet). Also, if anyone is interested in going as my guest tomorrow and does have some track experience, feel free to send me a PM.

Dennis,

Great info and as always very generous of you to offer to bring a guest out to the track. :thumbsup2:

[RaceMX-M3]

15 to go, keep em coming. :thumbsup2:

[DallasM5]

hmm if i can get my new suspension in, then im down for sure. ill let you know by the end of the week. i may have a friend who might join me as well.

[GTCole]

Bring another car.... If I can make it you can!

Steve

Good point. I do need to work though. I will see.

[citylightva]

Those membership prices aren't bad....

[RaceMX-M3]

I know everyone likes to wait until the last minute but we need to start filling up the paid slots if this is going to move forward. :)

[Feffman]

Wish I could sneak down to join you guys at Eagles Canyon but the work schedule and thus track schedule is tight in 2010. Have fun without me. SIGH! :(

Feff

[RaceMX-M3]

I had a conversation with Tom (Race Team Mgr) at Classic yesterday at C&C and he is going to try to help fill some vacant spots for us if needed to help move the event forward, although mentioned finding instructors may be a challenge. To the track junkies if you want to volunteer as an instructor or know others that may be interested please let me know.

[m3smgii2002]

I'm in. I might bring 2 cars just incase anyone (with a Ferrari) wants to race for PINKS :-)

ECR is hard on brakes so extra pads and better brake fluid are recommended if you want to be able to drive back home safely!

-M

[RaceMX-M3]

I'm in. I might bring 2 cars just incase anyone (with a Ferrari) wants to race for PINKS :-)

ECR is hard on brakes so extra pads and better brake fluid are recommended if you want to be able to drive back home safely!

-M

Awesome. Guys just try and get a deposit to me asap. :thumbsup2:

[Louis]

Count me in. Will be the Z06, or Rolex GT car. I MAY be on my way to barber, or finishing up a second car, either way, you can keep my money if I dont make it, or find someone to take my spot.

As for running it in the rain, I hate the rain. Its no fun unless you are on a REAL rain tire ;)

[Fubar]

Who's planning to attend?

1. RaceMX-M3
2. Fubar
3. rberg32
4. mrs.rberg32
5. citylightva
6. jram
7. zinia
8. Bobby E
9. remshot11
10. flyinmedic
11. sheesnaz
12. M3smgii2002
13. Louis
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Paid Entrees

1. RaceMX-M3
2. Fubar
3. zinia
4. Bobby E
5. sheesnaz
6.
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Pony up, you cheap *******s.

[flyinmedic]

Sent my money to Scott today so I'm ready to go.:driver: I was thinking we could all meet up and caravan up there together. I can see this as being just as fun as the track. What do you all think. Where would be a good spot and time?:D

[Fubar]

I'm all in for that.

I am also going to see if I can get Classic to tote my race tires up there. I hate driving the Hoosiers on the street and some of the roads going out there can be ruff.

[flyinmedic]

I'm all in for that.

I am also going to see if I can get Classic to tote my race tires up there. I hate driving the Hoosiers on the street and some of the roads going out there can be ruff.

Cool, I got me some Pilot Sport Cups and can't wait to try them out.

[RaceMX-M3]

We should plan to meet at Rudy's in Frisco - time tba.

[Fubar]

It might be easier for those coming from the West to meet off I35.

[Mike CLK Black]

I'm in Scott.
Let's pray for strong sunshine, cool air temps and a hot dry track!

[RaceMX-M3]

I'm in Scott.
Let's pray for strong sunshine, cool air temps and a hot dry track!

Awesome Mike!! :thumbsup2:

[RaceMX-M3]

Guys it's time to let me know if you want to participate in this, Classic BMW has agreed to take up some of the slack but we will need more paid entrees or this won't be worth doing.

[mordor110]

Wednesdays conflict with my work schedule, but would love to go. Going to see if I can manipulate my work schedule? Also have a cooling system issue in the M5 I should really get fixed before doing something like this and got to find the time. (Runs too cool per the OBD error which I'm thinking is good but it's causing the DME to leave it in choke mode and I don't want to fry my cats)

I noticed on the ECR web site they have Tues 23rd marked down as the BMW track day, are you sure it's on the 24th?

http://www.eaglescanyon.com/2008/schedule.php?day=01&mon=03&yr=2010

[RaceMX-M3]

Wednesdays conflict with my work schedule, but would love to go. Going to see if I can manipulate my work schedule? Also have a cooling system issue in the M5 I should really get fixed before doing something like this and got to find the time. (Runs too cool per the OBD error which I'm thinking is good but it's causing the DME to leave it in choke mode and I don't want to fry my cats)

I noticed on the ECR web site they have Tues 23rd marked down as the BMW track day, are you sure it's on the 24th?

http://www.eaglescanyon.com/2008/schedule.php?day=01&mon=03&yr=2010

Thanks for the heads up, I will confirm the date with Classic.

[Louis]

Im too lazy to see where to send money.... someone tell me where and how much... I know its in this thread somewhere, but really, clicking the back button is hard at 2am :D

[mordor110]

Thanks for the heads up, I will confirm the date with Classic.

OK. I'm about 80% sure I can make myself available on Weds 24th but Tues 23rd is out of the question.

[flyinmedic]

Wednesdays conflict with my work schedule, but would love to go. Going to see if I can manipulate my work schedule? Also have a cooling system issue in the M5 I should really get fixed before doing something like this and got to find the time. (Runs too cool per the OBD error which I'm thinking is good but it's causing the DME to leave it in choke mode and I don't want to fry my cats)

I noticed on the ECR web site they have Tues 23rd marked down as the BMW track day, are you sure it's on the 24th?

http://www.eaglescanyon.com/2008/schedule.php?day=01&mon=03&yr=2010

I hope its on the 24th because I already took the day off and can't be there on the 23rd. Please let us know ASAP.

[RaceMX-M3]

Im too lazy to see where to send money.... someone tell me where and how much... I know its in this thread somewhere, but really, clicking the back button is hard at 2am :D

send funds via paypal ($199) to paypal@dfwautoclub.com please put your name and contact info as well as your user id here so I know who you are. :)

I hope its on the 24th because I already took the day off and can't be there on the 23rd. Please let us know ASAP.

I will have this confirmed today.

[jram]

Sorry for the delay. Payment sent.

[RaceMX-M3]

Sorry for the delay. Payment sent.

Got it. Thanks. :thumbsup2:

[citylightva]

I think I sent it...my paypal app was useless...

[RaceMX-M3]

I think I sent it...my paypal app was useless...

got it.

[imaj]

what is the confirmed day for this event? Thanks!

[RaceMX-M3]

what is the confirmed day for this event? Thanks!

Classic BMW's race team manager has been at the track all week and I haven't been able to reach him. I will get confirmation early next week.. hang tight and don't worry about the cutoff for the $199 since we have this minor hickup.

[mordor110]

Scott, have you been able to confirm the 24th yet?

I can give you cash on Saturday at C&C if you're there.

Nick

[RaceMX-M3]

I just got word from Tom, the event on the 23rd is a separate event they have scheduled. Our event hasn't officially been put on the calendar b/c once you book it you own it. He is having trouble getting instructors for the 24th and is out of town until next week so in light of the uncertainty I'm opting to cancel the 24th. I apologize for any inconvenience to those that have scheduled time off. I will process refunds asap to those that paid via paypal. If you paid cash I will have it with me on Saturday at C&C. If you're not going to be at C&C please contact me and I will make other arrangements to get the cash back to you.

As an alternative there is a track event scheduled at TMS on April 30 that Steve (SAFE4NOW) is helping coordinate. Details here http://www.dfwautoclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2839

[flyinmedic]

Well that sucks. Hopefully we can get another track day scheduled in the near future.

[Zinia]

That's a bummer.

I'll see you on Saturday Scott for the refund.

[citylightva]

and the Mile is full now...:(

[Zinia]

and the Mile is full now...:(

The Mile? Those come a dime-a-dozen. Hell, even the highway department puts up little green signs to designate every time you go through The Mile. :beer:

[SAFE4NOW]

After I get through March, I will be more than happy to help put an event together for DFWAC members...

Scott, thank you for trying, it is never easy to get the stars and planets to align!

Steve

[rberg32]

Scott, why don't we try to book MSR?

[mordor110]

Scott, why don't we try to book MSR?

I heard MSR is a less bumpy track than ECR? But also heard ECR had made improvements.

Anyone been to the airstrip at Mineral Wells? Pretty cheap to rent out from what I hear?

[GTCole]

I'm going to Steve's April event. Guys, sign up for that. I think Steve could use a few more?

[mordor110]

I'm going to Steve's April event. Guys, sign up for that. I think Steve could use a few more?

Yeah not sure I can make that one yet, will know in a couple of weeks hopefully.

[SAFE4NOW]

I can get MSR for sure, usually in groups of 16, with different options of 1.7, 1.3, maybe even 3.1....

I am thinking I can get some backing as well, keeping the per car cost under $200 for the 1.7 , much less for the 1.3 ( if anyone wants )

anyways... more to follow

I need to get the TMS event done before putting up another one.

S

[citylightva]

The Mile? Those come a dime-a-dozen. Hell, even the highway department puts up little green signs to designate every time you go through The Mile. :beer:

Hahaha...THey are so thoughtful....

[RaceMX-M3]

Refunds have been processed for everyone that paid thru Paypal.

After I get through March, I will be more than happy to help put an event together for DFWAC members...

Scott, thank you for trying, it is never easy to get the stars and planets to align!

Steve

Thanks Steve, that would be great. :thumbsup2:

[BlackSheep]

Anyone been to the airstrip at Mineral Wells? Pretty cheap to rent out from what I hear?

I would be VERY interested in this!!!!!

[goofygrin]

If you're interested in the Miserable Hells airpark, look at doing a texas time trials event out there.

Be prepared to shred your tires...

[citylightva]

There goes my plan to buy track insurance and stuff my car into a wall...:whistle:

[SAFE4NOW]

Starting another Thread for DE Discussion(s)

Steve

[Louis]

That sucks. Tom and I were both in Miami for the Grand Am Rolex/Continental races, I need to give him a call.

Ill be on my way back from VIR the few days prior to the TMS event, Im not sure I can pull that one off. Bummer.

I am a member at MSR, it just is not as fun/entertaining as ECR.