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Qship5
03-10-2010, 11:42 PM
I thought I would open up a thread where people could ask their detailing questions and I would answer them as best as I can. I know there are some members that like to / want to take care of their own cars and I want to offer advice if they have questions...

RAC3ME
03-11-2010, 02:48 PM
I would like to know the best way to remove or improve the scratches on the leather on my steering wheel. I scratched it with the zipper of my jacket twice and it really bothers me.

Qship5
03-11-2010, 10:29 PM
I would like to know the best way to remove or improve the scratches on the leather on my steering wheel. I scratched it with the zipper of my jacket twice and it really bothers me.

Tough question to answer without seeing how deep the scratches are. When scratched, leather usually has had some of the dye removed and the surface damaged, making it rougher than the surounding material. For very minor scrapes, a good conditioner may be all that is needed, but deeper scrapes or scratches may need to be smoothed with very fine sandpaper and redyed to make them less visible.

Hope this helps.

RaceMX-M3
03-11-2010, 11:25 PM
Mike what's the best way to prevent swirls in the clear coat? Seems no matter what how careful I am, using two buckets, new wash mitts and microfiber towels, etc. I always end up with swirls everywhere.

mark1281
03-12-2010, 01:21 PM
Mike what's the best way to prevent swirls in the clear coat? Seems no matter what how careful I am, using two buckets, new wash mitts and microfiber towels, etc. I always end up with swirls everywhere.

I get that problem as well. It's not pretty to look at.

RaceMX-M3
03-12-2010, 11:41 PM
I get that problem as well. It's not pretty to look at.

At least on a silver car it isn't very noticeable, black is the worst.

RAC3ME
03-13-2010, 12:01 AM
Tough question to answer without seeing how deep the scratches are. When scratched, leather usually has had some of the dye removed and the surface damaged, making it rougher than the surounding material. For very minor scrapes, a good conditioner may be all that is needed, but deeper scrapes or scratches may need to be smoothed with very fine sandpaper and redyed to make them less visible.

Hope this helps.

Cool... Maybe when I see you next you can take a peak at it. :thumbsup2:

DallasM5
03-13-2010, 12:10 AM
At least on a silver car it isn't very noticeable, black is the worst.

tell me about it :thumpdown:

Vandit
03-13-2010, 12:33 AM
I think micromarring is inevitable. I've come to the conclusion that my car is my daily driver and it's not going to have perfect paint, so I machine apply wax/sealant on it periodically to give it protection from the elements, but don't focus too much on flawless paint correction.

Qship5
03-13-2010, 12:38 AM
Mike what's the best way to prevent swirls in the clear coat? Seems no matter what how careful I am, using two buckets, new wash mitts and microfiber towels, etc. I always end up with swirls everywhere.

Some of this is going to happen just driving the car. The best way to prevent it is washing with two buckets and grit guards, making sure you only wash small sections of the car before rinsing your mitt and using proper drying techniques. (Of course, a Spot Free Rinse system helps) If drying with towels, be sure to use good quality waffle weave towels and make sure to follow a sheeting process during your final rinse.

Qship5
03-13-2010, 12:39 AM
tell me about it :thumpdown:

LOL, I only have black cars! :eek::eek::eek:

imaj
03-13-2010, 08:24 AM
It is best to dry your car with a leaf blower (Or some air system.) for fewer swirls. Moral of the story is...The fewer towels that touch your paint, the less likely you are to get swirls.

citylightva
03-13-2010, 09:13 AM
Mike, minus the actual microfiber laundry cleaner, whats the best detergent or way to wash your Cobra towels..? I've been using fragrance free Tide and no softener....

DallasM5
03-13-2010, 10:49 AM
LOL, I only have black cars! :eek::eek::eek:

ive only had black cars too, but its still a pita because i have ocd...haha

Qship5
03-14-2010, 12:04 PM
Mike, minus the actual microfiber laundry cleaner, whats the best detergent or way to wash your Cobra towels..? I've been using fragrance free Tide and no softener....

You really want to use a dedicated microfiber cleaner rather than regular laundry detergent. The no dye, no scent is probably best as far as the regular ones go, but I would highly recommend using a product Micro-Restore Microfiber Detergent (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-3596920-10509474?url=http://www.autogeek.net/mr32.html) or Pinnacle Micro Restore (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-3596920-10509474?url=http://www.autogeek.net/pin620.html)

Make sure you wash them in hot water and if the machine offers the option, add a second or additional rinse.

Qship5
03-14-2010, 12:06 PM
ive only had black cars too, but its still a pita because i have ocd...haha

It's a catch 22...OCD person gets black car, becomes more OCD keeping it clean, but when it's clean, it looks so good they don't want another color.:hmmmm2:

DallasM5
03-19-2010, 02:13 AM
It's a catch 22...OCD person gets black car, becomes more OCD keeping it clean, but when it's clean, it looks so good they don't want another color.:hmmmm2:

bingo

when it is clean though its just sooooo :drool:

Qship5
03-20-2010, 12:57 AM
bingo

when it is clean though its just sooooo :drool:

Soooo true!!!

RaceMX-M3
03-20-2010, 03:18 AM
I need to pony up for the spotless rinse thing soon.

mark1281
03-31-2010, 01:37 PM
Mike,

would it be best to work the polish in a small area, then remove the polish before moving to the next small area or can you just remove the polish after you finish the panel you are working on? Also, does the same idea work with the carnuba wax or should there be a drying time involved? Thanks

Qship5
03-31-2010, 05:53 PM
Mike,

would it be best to work the polish in a small area, then remove the polish before moving to the next small area or can you just remove the polish after you finish the panel you are working on? Also, does the same idea work with the carnuba wax or should there be a drying time involved? Thanks

Work the polish in a small area 2' x 2' or 2' x 3' and remove the polish residue once you have fully worked it. Then move on to the next section, overlapping each section slightly. (If you are having difficulty removing the residue, it is more than likely that too much polish was used or the polish wasn't fully broken down.)

As far as the carnauba is concerned, it depends on the specific wax. Some are removed while still wet (Pinnacle Souverain, P21s, etc.) and some are supposed to haze over before removal (Zymol). The specific wax in question should tell you whether to remove while wet or allow it to dry. If it is a remove wet wax, apply to a section or panel and then immediately remove with your MF towel. If it is a wax that you allow to dry and haze over then you can apply to the entire car and remove or apply to a section, let it dry and remove before moving to the next section.

Hope that helps.

mark1281
03-31-2010, 06:36 PM
Work the polish in a small area 2' x 2' or 2' x 3' and remove the polish residue once you have fully worked it. Then move on to the next section, overlapping each section slightly. (If you are having difficulty removing the residue, it is more than likely that too much polish was used or the polish wasn't fully broken down.)

As far as the carnauba is concerned, it depends on the specific wax. Some are removed while still wet (Pinnacle Souverain, P21s, etc.) and some are supposed to haze over before removal (Zymol). The specific wax in question should tell you whether to remove while wet or allow it to dry. If it is a remove wet wax, apply to a section or panel and then immediately remove with your MF towel. If it is a wax that you allow to dry and haze over then you can apply to the entire car and remove or apply to a section, let it dry and remove before moving to the next section.

Hope that helps.

Mike,

That works. Makes good sense. I will do that when I start working on the car. I got my stuff in today! Thanks for all your help.

mark1281
04-04-2010, 01:21 PM
What is the best way to clean the badges and the trim panels on the car?

imaj
04-04-2010, 01:56 PM
Mark, you should tape over all badges and car seems/edges. Much like the picture below...

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n219/motionman0/IMG_7986.jpg

Qship5
04-04-2010, 03:11 PM
What is the best way to clean the badges and the trim panels on the car?

Taping off all trim, lights and badges is always a good idea. You can then clean then by hand with an appropriate product after you finish polishing the car. If the trim is painted, you may polish it along with the car.

mark1281
04-04-2010, 03:34 PM
Taping off all trim, lights and badges is always a good idea. You can then clean then by hand with an appropriate product after you finish polishing the car. If the trim is painted, you may polish it along with the car.

What about cleaning in the badges... you know how dirt gets lodged in the badge lettering or emblem.

Qship5
04-04-2010, 10:30 PM
What about cleaning in the badges... you know how dirt gets lodged in the badge lettering or emblem.

That needs to be cleaned and polished by hand. Use a good precleaner like P21s Total Auto Wash before polishing to remove any remaining dirt after the wash (Cheesecloth is great for removing said dirt with the cleaner.) Once clean, polish by hand with a foam pad and buff with MF towel and dry cheesecloth if necessary to get all the polish off. Wax like the rest of the car.

mark1281
04-05-2010, 08:20 AM
Thanks for the info... appreciate all the help you have given me. It's made the detailing much easier!

Qship5
04-05-2010, 10:11 AM
Thanks for the info... appreciate all the help you have given me. It's made the detailing much easier!

Glad to be able to help out. Can't wait to see the before and after pics of the Merc.:thumbsup2:

mark1281
04-05-2010, 11:42 AM
Glad to be able to help out. Can't wait to see the before and after pics of the Merc.:thumbsup2:

I got the pics of after i was done they are in the European cars section, i dont have any detailed before shots. lets just say it was not pretty. looks like spider webs all over the car.

TXS2000
04-05-2010, 04:49 PM
What can I use to clean interior chrome parts? I have a 1997 BMW 540i that has a chrome strip on the inside up against the window. It has some surface grime that does not come off with water and soap. It looks to be water spots/funky grime.

Qship5
04-05-2010, 08:59 PM
What can I use to clean interior chrome parts? I have a 1997 BMW 540i that has a chrome strip on the inside up against the window. It has some surface grime that does not come off with water and soap. It looks to be water spots/funky grime.

If it is real chrome, you can clean it with a good metal polish. More than likely it is a chrome finished film product and you might want to try a general purpose cleaner Meguair's APC or Enzett Cockpit Premium.

DallasM5
04-06-2010, 12:09 AM
Mark, you should tape over all badges and car seems/edges. Much like the picture below...

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n219/motionman0/IMG_7986.jpg

where is that at? is that mikes house?(not Qship)

i see a lot of adams products and i finally finished the gallons worth of stuff i had and need more...:argh:

imaj
04-06-2010, 12:20 AM
The picture comes from a friend of mine in NJ. Out of respect for Detail Perfection, I will not share that info. on this forum. Sorry!

TXS2000
04-06-2010, 02:34 PM
where is that at? is that mikes house?(not Qship)

i see a lot of adams products and i finally finished the gallons worth of stuff i had and need more...:argh:

That is A LOT of product on the shelves. I have a lot of product but it tends to be a little of this and a little of that. I really need to throw away stuff I will never use again.

imaj
04-06-2010, 03:06 PM
He is a reseller of many detailing products. Hence the large amount of product on the shelves.

Qship5
04-06-2010, 11:10 PM
The picture comes from a friend of mine in NJ. Out of respect for Detail Perfection, I will not share that info. on this forum. Sorry!

The respect is very much appreciated!:thumbsup2:

RioGrandeValley
04-12-2010, 09:24 AM
I do my wife's black Jett and have yet to see any swirls after waxing. Also done charcoal gray Bimmer and zero swirls. Qship5 I use 303 AP for the interior no oily residue excellent product only drawback is the smell. Anything comparable to it out there that wont be oily or smell bad? I'm talking local Pep Boys stuff not internet order product.

Thx in advance with much appreciation!
carlos

Qship5
04-12-2010, 01:29 PM
I do my wife's black Jett and have yet to see any swirls after waxing. Also done charcoal gray Bimmer and zero swirls. Qship5 I use 303 AP for the interior no oily residue excellent product only drawback is the smell. Anything comparable to it out there that wont be oily or smell bad? I'm talking local Pep Boys stuff not internet order product.

Thx in advance with much appreciation!
carlos

Most of the products I use on the interior are not available at local shops like Pep Boys. (Einzett Cockpit Premium, Griot's Garage Interior Cleaner) 303 is good stuff. Have you tried using it and then leaving the windows open all night in the garage to let the smell dissipate?

RioGrandeValley
04-12-2010, 09:39 PM
Most of the products I use on the interior are not available at local shops like Pep Boys. (Einzett Cockpit Premium, Griot's Garage Interior Cleaner) 303 is good stuff. Have you tried using it and then leaving the windows open all night in the garage to let the smell dissipate?

Yeah tried that too. I really like the 303 way better than most stuff the local stores carry. What about engine bay? I've noticed lots of pollen in there due to the crazy high counts. Wash it off then spray with what?

Thx again in advance.
carlos

Qship5
04-12-2010, 09:54 PM
Yeah tried that too. I really like the 303 way better than most stuff the local stores carry. What about engine bay? I've noticed lots of pollen in there due to the crazy high counts. Wash it off then spray with what?

Thx again in advance.
carlos

Chemical Guys Fade to Black is good in the engine bay. I like to use a cleaner like P21s Total Auto Wash when cleaning the engine bay before using the Fade to Black.

mark1281
04-16-2010, 09:13 PM
Mike,

I was detailing the lexus and noticed on the paint there were stains left from bird crap. I tried to clay bar it and it would not remove the stain. To the touch it feels like its on the surface but cant be taken off. what do you advise?

Mark

Qship5
04-16-2010, 11:31 PM
Mike,

I was detailing the lexus and noticed on the paint there were stains left from bird crap. I tried to clay bar it and it would not remove the stain. To the touch it feels like its on the surface but cant be taken off. what do you advise?

Mark

More than likely it etched the paint. Polish it with the SIP and an Orange pad and you should have no trouble removing it.

mark1281
04-17-2010, 11:53 AM
More than likely it etched the paint. Polish it with the SIP and an Orange pad and you should have no trouble removing it.

Thanks.

UBR32
04-23-2010, 09:09 PM
Chemical Guys Fade to Black is good in the engine bay. I like to use a cleaner like P21s Total Auto Wash when cleaning the engine bay before using the Fade to Black.

I have mud that splashed up into my engine bay. Can I just spray it down with a hose? Is there anything that I need to be careful of doing?

Qship5
04-24-2010, 02:56 PM
I have mud that splashed up into my engine bay. Can I just spray it down with a hose? Is there anything that I need to be careful of doing?

As long as you don't have an open intake or exposed air filter you shpuld be fine. If you do have either of those, cover them with foil or plastic before washing it down.

mark1281
04-30-2010, 05:48 PM
Mike,

You got me addicted to getting all this great stuff to keep my car shiny... I just got my second shipment of more cobra indigo polish towels and the guzzler drying towels....

Any other recommendations on products to get to help make my car washing easier and more productive?

Qship5
05-03-2010, 12:46 PM
Mike,

You got me addicted to getting all this great stuff to keep my car shiny... I just got my second shipment of more cobra indigo polish towels and the guzzler drying towels....

Any other recommendations on products to get to help make my car washing easier and more productive?

Spot Free rinse system...(these are available from me if you are interested.)

I'm assuming you are using two buckets with grit guards, etc when washing the car.

snowball
05-03-2010, 12:53 PM
Yeah, the spot free rinse system is awesome !!! No towel drying needed works very well. :thumbsup2:

mark1281
05-03-2010, 06:05 PM
Spot Free rinse system...(these are available from me if you are interested.)

I'm assuming you are using two buckets with grit guards, etc when washing the car.

Yes I am using two buckets...

let me know what kind of cost we are lookin at for one...

Fubar
05-04-2010, 12:35 PM
Spot Free rinse system...(these are available from me if you are interested.)

I'm assuming you are using two buckets with grit guards, etc when washing the car.

I need to get some refills from you. Let me know what they cost. These things work like magic.

Zinia
05-04-2010, 12:52 PM
I need to get some refills from you. Let me know what they cost. These things work like magic.

How many washes did you get out of the original? Just wondering about how long I have before I also need to get a refill.

Fubar
05-04-2010, 07:10 PM
15-20 maybe

calintexas
05-04-2010, 09:11 PM
15-20 maybe

One or two tank?

Zinia
05-05-2010, 07:37 AM
One or two tank?

I would guess that's the one-tank since that's what I have and have done about 12 washes so far.

imaj
05-05-2010, 08:16 AM
Would the 15-20 number be related to rinsing the car only or for a full rinse, wash and rinse again?

Zinia
05-05-2010, 08:52 AM
Would the 15-20 number be related to rinsing the car only or for a full rinse, wash and rinse again?

With mine it's a rinse only. Not much reason to use the deionizer until the final rinse, anyway.

Fubar
05-05-2010, 09:49 AM
Sometimes I over use it but not much. I've just started to notice some minor residue left in the water recently.

Qship5
05-05-2010, 08:23 PM
Mark has the two tank system and I am like he is as far as using it on the liberal side. I ended up going to the big tank commercial system so I don't need to change it out as often. Then again I do detail other people cars on a regular basis...

mark1281
05-10-2010, 10:56 PM
Just got mine today... Thanks Mike!! I'm lookin forward to using it.:thumbsup2:

nullsign
05-30-2010, 12:01 PM
ive only had black cars too, but its still a pita because i have ocd...haha

I'm right there with ya on both counts.

mark1281
05-30-2010, 09:58 PM
I'm right there with ya on both counts.


Black cars looks sweet when they are clean but you know the rest....

calintexas
06-06-2010, 11:16 PM
What's the best way to remove it? Rubbing blue painter's tape on it works, but seems aggressive for long term use.

Qship5
06-06-2010, 11:41 PM
What's the best way to remove it? Rubbing blue painter's tape on it works, but seems aggressive for long term use.

When you say rubbing blue painters tape, what do you mean? Have you tried a lint removing roller?

calintexas
06-07-2010, 11:55 PM
When you say rubbing blue painters tape, what do you mean? Have you tried a lint removing roller?

The sunroof edging was really thick with lint when I noticed it (I think it was that way at delivery). I tried just tearing off a couple of inches of painter's tape and pressing the sticky side down on the edging, but that didn't do much. I then tried a napped lint brush, but that didn't do much either. Lastly, I tried rubbing the roughly 2" piece of painter's tape against the edging. It worked to remove the lint. It took several pieces to do it as the tape quickly filled up with lint. It took quite a bit of rubbing. It didn't seem like it would be a good way to do it long term. I didn't try one of the miracle tacky lint rollers that you use water to clean off. Is that what you recommend?

Qship5
06-08-2010, 10:28 AM
The sunroof edging was really thick with lint when I noticed it (I think it was that way at delivery). I tried just tearing off a couple of inches of painter's tape and pressing the sticky side down on the edging, but that didn't do much. I then tried a napped lint brush, but that didn't do much either. Lastly, I tried rubbing the roughly 2" piece of painter's tape against the edging. It worked to remove the lint. It took several pieces to do it as the tape quickly filled up with lint. It took quite a bit of rubbing. It didn't seem like it would be a good way to do it long term. I didn't try one of the miracle tacky lint rollers that you use water to clean off. Is that what you recommend?

I was referring to the lint rollers that are sort of like inside out tape, with the sticky side facing out. It rolls over the surface while putting the sticky side into contact with it.

mark1281
06-20-2010, 03:32 PM
Mike,

When you use just Leatherique Pristine Clean, do you just spray it on and scrub it in, then rinse it with a towel that has been rinse in warm water?? Thanks

Qship5
06-27-2010, 12:43 PM
Mike,

When you use just Leatherique Pristine Clean, do you just spray it on and scrub it in, then rinse it with a towel that has been rinse in warm water?? Thanks

If using PC to remove the rejuvinator oil, you want to spary it on, wipe the surface with a clean cloth and then finish with a rag/cloth that has been soaked in warm watre and then wrung out. If just doing a light "in between" cleaning with PC, just spary it on and wipe down with a clean mf towel.

TXSailor
07-11-2010, 09:51 AM
Mike-

I own a black sapphire metallic 335xi- it has a some swirls. I just bought a PC and was wondering what you thought I should use. My plan was to Menzerna IP to polish then Klasse AIO then Klasse SG to seal. What is your recommendation??? I have some good things about the Mag products as well. I am brand new to this, so using the product that is the most idiot proof is important.

Thanks-

Qship5
07-12-2010, 11:34 AM
Mike-

I own a black sapphire metallic 335xi- it has a some swirls. I just bought a PC and was wondering what you thought I should use. My plan was to Menzerna IP to polish then Klasse AIO then Klasse SG to seal. What is your recommendation??? I have some good things about the Mag products as well. I am brand new to this, so using the product that is the most idiot proof is important.

Thanks-

Try the Menxerna IP with an orange pad on a section to see if you get the level of correction you want/need to remove the swirls. If they don't seem to be coming out, you could drop down to Megs 105 with a yellow pad. Finishing up with the listed Klasse products should be fine, but my suggestion would be to replace the AIO with a polishing pass with Menzerna super finish using a black pad and then top with the Klasse SG, assuming you are set on using Klasse. If you are open to another sealant/glaze, there are easier ones to work with.

Mike

TTZip
07-14-2010, 12:07 AM
Mike I sent you a PM. Please tell me you can help me.

Qship5
07-14-2010, 11:45 AM
Mike I sent you a PM. Please tell me you can help me.

I'll see what I can do to help you. PMs replied to.

citylightva
08-01-2010, 03:57 PM
Mike, what's a really good deep cut for a DA.?? The cut I've got isn't tough enough on some of the trucks paint.

Qship5
08-01-2010, 10:55 PM
Mike, what's a really good deep cut for a DA.?? The cut I've got isn't tough enough on some of the trucks paint.

Meguiar's M105 should give you all the cut you need. Use it with anything from an Orange pad (less cut) to a Yellow pad (moderate cut) to a purple foamed wool pad (heavy cut).

citylightva
08-02-2010, 02:26 PM
On the same note, do you glaze after using swirl remover..?? My truck is in greasy hell after glazing and using sealant. If I cared I could probably buff it every day for a week :laugh: Glaze annoyed the hell out of me getting it off. It looks super deep and rich for 6 year old paint though :D

Qship5
08-02-2010, 11:47 PM
After swirl removal I normally just apply either sealant or wax.

citylightva
08-03-2010, 08:40 PM
You can critique my work if you go Saturday...

Qship5
08-04-2010, 05:18 PM
You can critique my work if you go Saturday...

Sure!:D

citylightva
08-05-2010, 12:25 AM
I will always be grasshopper, but for in between I gotta figure out how to get rid of these annoying things :)

Qship5
08-05-2010, 02:11 PM
I will always be grasshopper, but for in between I gotta figure out how to get rid of these annoying things :)

Take the pebble from my hand...:whistle:

I'm sure you can do a good job if you take your time.

calintexas
08-05-2010, 03:31 PM
Mike, what is your take on the use of quick detailer sprays? Is there a point when they are ok (very light dust/a few water spots) and a point where they aren't? Any caveats/tips? Or is it just, "Run away as fast as you can"?

Zinia
08-05-2010, 03:51 PM
I gotta figure out how to get rid of these annoying things :)

A Dodge? cars.com and select the 'Sell' tab. :whistle:

citylightva
08-05-2010, 04:54 PM
A Dodge? cars.com and select the 'Sell' tab. :whistle:

Blah blah blah :D I actually meant on the Benz, the swirls and crap. For a half ton truck, Dodge Hemi is all I'll get. For a 3/4, Ford F250 Powerstroke FTW.!!

Qship5
08-05-2010, 10:02 PM
Mike, what is your take on the use of quick detailer sprays? Is there a point when they are ok (very light dust/a few water spots) and a point where they aren't? Any caveats/tips? Or is it just, "Run away as fast as you can"?

Very light dust or water spots are OK with a good QD and plush MF cloth. Beyond that, run, don't walk.

calintexas
08-05-2010, 11:01 PM
Very light dust or water spots are OK with a good QD and plush MF cloth. Beyond that, run, don't walk.

Thanks Mike.

citylightva
08-06-2010, 09:59 PM
Or if it keeps raining it'll just be dirty still...

citylightva
08-08-2010, 01:45 AM
I saw you leaving right when I got there...Got the Forgestars back on I see, or do you actually have 3 sets of wheels now..??

Qship5
08-09-2010, 03:01 PM
I saw you leaving right when I got there...Got the Forgestars back on I see, or do you actually have 3 sets of wheels now..??

Yeah, the Forgestars are back on. It seemed to be winding down and was getting hot so I decided to leave.

RAC3ME
08-11-2010, 11:36 PM
What would you use to dust your car? Quick detailer?

After cleaning my Vette it sits in the garage a few days at a time sometimes and gets dusty. I don't want to cover it up because I like looking at it. lol.

Qship5
08-12-2010, 12:34 PM
What would you use to dust your car? Quick detailer?

After cleaning my Vette it sits in the garage a few days at a time sometimes and gets dusty. I don't want to cover it up because I like looking at it. lol.

If it is dust from sitting in the garage, a QD and plush MF towel will be fine.

Kidzey
09-05-2010, 09:11 AM
I thought I would open up a thread where people could ask their detailing questions and I would answer them as best as I can. I know there are some members that like to / want to take care of their own cars and I want to offer advice if they have questions...


thanks for starting this thread, great input esp for the new here.

i have a few questions, it's been a while since i had worked on maintaining my cars but am getting re-motivated to start up again.

whats the shelf life on polishes/waxes? all of it is at least 3 years old up to 5+ on some... still usable or should i discard and start new? have meguiars' products (a friend worked for them so got lots of stuff cheap/free) consisting of dacp, swirl remover 2.0, show car glaze, hi tech yellow wax, etc...

if i do buy new, what's some recommended products. have been wanting to try menzerma but not sure which falls into equivalent roles as the meg's with the ip, sip, fpi.. trying to keep my overall steps to a minimum. menz been around for a while and stable, anything new to try?

need new pads for the 7424, a mild/medium clay bar and mf towels, any recs?

sorry if too many q's and if too open; don't need a detailed explanation, maybe if you could point me in the direction of a few products to research and get me a sense of which line people are liking now...

lastly, am interested in the spot free system of yours... seeing lots of good posts about it. have a video demo by chance?

thanks

FriscoMMM
09-05-2010, 02:13 PM
how do i get black scuff marks off my grey interior trim panels (plastic)? thx

Qship5
09-05-2010, 02:58 PM
how do i get black scuff marks off my grey interior trim panels (plastic)? thx

Depends on the texture of the surface being cleaned, but I would try a good interior cleaner like Einzett Cockpit Premium with a rag first. If the panel is textured, a brush might be needed to work the cleaner into the texture and loosen the dirt from the scuff mark. If that doesn't work, a stronger cleaner like Einzett Plastic Vinyl Deep Cleaner or Meguiar's All Purpose Cleaner (APC) might be needed. (APC is a concentrate that is diluted depending on the job.)

Qship5
09-05-2010, 03:02 PM
thanks for starting this thread, great input esp for the new here.

i have a few questions, it's been a while since i had worked on maintaining my cars but am getting re-motivated to start up again.

whats the shelf life on polishes/waxes? all of it is at least 3 years old up to 5+ on some... still usable or should i discard and start new? have meguiars' products (a friend worked for them so got lots of stuff cheap/free) consisting of dacp, swirl remover 2.0, show car glaze, hi tech yellow wax, etc...

if i do buy new, what's some recommended products. have been wanting to try menzerma but not sure which falls into equivalent roles as the meg's with the ip, sip, fpi.. trying to keep my overall steps to a minimum. menz been around for a while and stable, anything new to try?

need new pads for the 7424, a mild/medium clay bar and mf towels, any recs?

sorry if too many q's and if too open; don't need a detailed explanation, maybe if you could point me in the direction of a few products to research and get me a sense of which line people are liking now...

lastly, am interested in the spot free system of yours... seeing lots of good posts about it. have a video demo by chance?

thanks

PM sent

imaj
09-05-2010, 04:19 PM
how do i get black scuff marks off my grey interior trim panels (plastic)? thx

You may have luck using a Magic eraser.

FriscoMMM
09-05-2010, 11:44 PM
Depends on the texture of the surface being cleaned, but I would try a good interior cleaner like Einzett Cockpit Premium with a rag first. If the panel is textured, a brush might be needed to work the cleaner into the texture and loosen the dirt from the scuff mark. If that doesn't work, a stronger cleaner like Einzett Plastic Vinyl Deep Cleaner or Meguiar's All Purpose Cleaner (APC) might be needed. (APC is a concentrate that is diluted depending on the job.)

ok i'll look for these products. i think i'll have to use something tough because it's pretty well absorbed in the plastic.

You may have luck using a Magic eraser.

thanks...i have heard of this. do they sell it at autozone, or do i need to look online?

TXS2000
09-06-2010, 01:04 AM
ok i'll look for these products. i think i'll have to use something tough because it's pretty well absorbed in the plastic.



thanks...i have heard of this. do they sell it at autozone, or do i need to look online?

You can get Magic Eraser at WalMart in the General Purpose Cleaning Solutions isle. They can be used all over the house for stuff.

Qship5
09-06-2010, 12:17 PM
Use the Magic Eraser gently as it is abrasive.

kazmee
09-13-2010, 10:32 PM
Can you suggest the best way to maintain the shine of a car, I usually use wax but it only last for 2 days.

Qship5
09-14-2010, 10:59 AM
Can you suggest the best way to maintain the shine of a car, I usually use wax but it only last for 2 days.

If you are looking for a long lasting shine, use a sealant, not a wax. Blackfire Wet Diamond (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=8131&url=detailedimage.com/Blackfire-M32/Wet-Diamond-P205/16-oz-S1/) is one of my favorite ones.

Fubar
09-14-2010, 11:47 AM
Can you put that stuff on a vinyl wrap?

Qship5
09-16-2010, 02:26 PM
Can you put that stuff on a vinyl wrap?

The Blackfire?

Fubar
09-22-2010, 07:02 PM
Maybe I should ask "what is the best product to use on a vehicle wrap?"

Qship5
09-22-2010, 10:34 PM
Maybe I should ask "what is the best product to use on a vehicle wrap?"

If you are talking about the best product for protection from the elements, I would suggest either a high quality carnauba wax or sealant. As long as you use a good quality product it should not cloud the wrap film. My personal faves would be either Pinnacle Souveran (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-3596920-10509474?url=http://www.autogeek.net/pinsouvwax.html) or P21s Concours Carnauba Wax (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-3596920-10509474?url=http://www.autogeek.net/p2concarwax.html) in a Carnauba or Blackfire Wet Diamond (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=8131&url=detailedimage.com/Blackfire-M32/Wet-Diamond-P205/16-oz-S1/) in a sealant. Any of these will serve you well. If you want to go to the extreme on a wax, you can't go wrong with Dodo Juice Supernatural (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=8131&url=detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Supernatural-Wax-P249/250-ml-S1/). It is the finest wax I have ever used and worth the price to the purist!

calintexas
10-08-2010, 08:12 PM
Hey all, new here. One issue I didn't see addressed is whether the Leatherique products will tighten the leather up. My leather in my 01 A6 already looks good, but is a little loose, both on the seats and on the door panels. There's no damage and little dirt, but the looseness makes them look old. Thanks for your help!

This question was asked in another (older) thread by new member Redneck Truck. I thought Mike might not see it there; so, I posted it here.

Qship5
10-09-2010, 02:37 PM
This question was asked in another (older) thread by new member Redneck Truck. I thought Mike might not see it there; so, I posted it here.

Thanks for posting here Cal as I didn't see this earlier. Leatherique will not tighten the leather as it essentially replenishes lost oils and moisture to the leather. If the leather is "loose", you may nee to look into having the panels restretched to make them look new again.

TXSailor
11-07-2010, 08:43 PM
I have a question- what do you think of Optimum No Wash? Can I use it between washes to get the dust off? Is it safe for my paint?

Qship5
11-08-2010, 04:54 PM
I have a question- what do you think of Optimum No Wash? Can I use it between washes to get the dust off? Is it safe for my paint?

I assume you mean Optimum No Rinse. Some people swear by it, but I have no personal experience with it. I would think that for removing light dust, it would be OK, but much like the QD discussion, I don't recommend doing it if the car has anything other than light dust on it.

They also have a product called Opti Clean that is supposed to be a waterless car washing product that has received good praise from some people.

imaj
11-08-2010, 05:23 PM
If I may...Waterless washing period is not a good option. You will trap more dirt and therefor run the risk of scratches.

TXS2000
11-08-2010, 06:01 PM
I assume you mean Optimum No Rinse. Some people swear by it, but I have no personal experience with it. I would think that for removing light dust, it would be OK, but much like the QD discussion, I don't recommend doing it if the car has anything other than light dust on it.

They also have a product called Opti Clean that is supposed to be a waterless car washing product that has received good praise from some people.

I have some Optimum No Rinse at the house. My cars are always too dirty for me to feel comfortable using it. I have used it a time or two and couldn't quite figure out what the appeal is other than "Eco Friendly" by using no water. I would be happy to donate it to your collection of car cleaners and thus remove it from mine. :laugh:

I have to admit I like the foam spray and 2 bucket wash with deionized rinse water! Doesn't get any better IMO.

Qship5
11-09-2010, 09:07 AM
If I may...Waterless washing period is not a good option. You will trap more dirt and therefor run the risk of scratches.

I am not fond of it either, but if done carefully is supposed to work. It requires lots of plush mf towels that are constantly turned to have a clean side for wiping.

I have some Optimum No Rinse at the house. My cars are always too dirty for me to feel comfortable using it. I have used it a time or two and couldn't quite figure out what the appeal is other than "Eco Friendly" by using no water. I would be happy to donate it to your collection of car cleaners and thus remove it from mine. :laugh:

I have to admit I like the foam spray and 2 bucket wash with deionized rinse water! Doesn't get any better IMO.

Agreed! If the car isn't too dirty, I can do a wash and DI rinse in under 15 minutes. As fast or faster than a waterless approach.

TXSailor
11-18-2010, 01:47 PM
I have a question- I purchased a PC 7424 as part of a package from detailed image. It came with some 6" lake country pads, but it looks like my backing plate is 4" (The pads overhang the plate. Can I run with thhis setup or do I need to get a bigger plate?

As always- thanks for the help!!

boniomario
11-18-2010, 03:11 PM
I have a question- I purchased a PC 7424 as part of a package from detailed image. It came with some 6" lake country pads, but it looks like my backing plate is 4" (The pads overhang the plate. Can I run with thhis setup or do I need to get a bigger plate?

As always- thanks for the help!!

you can but it'll be a pain to deal with the soft edges and not getting the product on properly. Contact them and ask them for a proper backing plate Greg from DI is pretty good guy and he'll do it immediately sometimes free of charge :D

TXSailor
11-18-2010, 03:40 PM
you can but it'll be a pain to deal with the soft edges and not getting the product on properly. Contact them and ask them for a proper backing plate Greg from DI is pretty good guy and he'll do it immediately sometimes free of charge :D

Thanks!

imaj
11-18-2010, 03:46 PM
If your pads look like this http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n219/motionman0/Screenshot2010-11-18at24336PM.png They were made to overlap the backing plate.

boniomario
11-18-2010, 04:17 PM
detailed image has the new pads the hydro tech pads those are one of the best I've ever used.

If you need any help assorting which kind to use with what product lemme know

this is what I usually do ...

WASH:

2 5 Gallon bucket wash method - 1 with soap and 1 with clean water, grit guard in clean water to clean off mit after each panel is soaped up

1 grit guard
1 wool mit
Shampoo (I prefer Chemical guys citrus wash)
2 waffle weave drying towels

clean and dry that's easy

Before the clay process I usually use a very concentrated amount of soap to strip all the previous wax from before

CLAY: then clay bar the car with megs clay kit found at walmart for less than $15.00 comes with clay lube, 2 clay bars, towel and cleaner wax

Some prefer to wash the car again, being the way I am I usually wash it again. But with a very diluted concentration of soap

COMPOUND: M105 - use PC 7424 there are tons of how to videos on autpia.org also the speed setting at "5"

POLISH - M205 same ****

GLAZE - either by hand or machine use #7 by megs ... kinda oily but that's the purpose very very thin layer

SEALANT - I just used NXT 2.0 by hand and loved it ... let it cure for 12 hours and then apply another layer. This one says it's a wax on the label but truely a sealant and will last 3 months

WAX - Any carnuba wax will do my preference is the dodo juice purple haze for my black jeep - also 2 coats with 12 hour cure times. Wax usually lasts at most 1 month

Here are the pad colors I use as well

orange - compound/polish
white - same as above
blue/black - sealant
blue - wax

Qship5
11-18-2010, 04:46 PM
I have a question- I purchased a PC 7424 as part of a package from detailed image. It came with some 6" lake country pads, but it looks like my backing plate is 4" (The pads overhang the plate. Can I run with thhis setup or do I need to get a bigger plate?

As always- thanks for the help!!

6 inch pads on a 4 inch backing plate is too much overhang. You want some overhang, but not 1 inch worth. Typically 6 inch pads are used with a 4 3/4 inch or 5 inch backing plate. I'm not sure about your specific kit, but unless it included an aftermarket flexible backing plate, it may just be the standard 4 inch backing plate that is included with the 7424 by PorterCable.

TXSailor
11-19-2010, 02:08 PM
6 inch pads on a 4 inch backing plate is too much overhang. You want some overhang, but not 1 inch worth. Typically 6 inch pads are used with a 4 3/4 inch or 5 inch backing plate. I'm not sure about your specific kit, but unless it included an aftermarket flexible backing plate, it may just be the standard 4 inch backing plate that is included with the 7424 by PorterCable.

Do you have any plates in stock if I need to pick one up tomorrow?

Qship5
11-19-2010, 04:00 PM
Do you have any plates in stock if I need to pick one up tomorrow?

I do not. Sorry

imaj
11-19-2010, 04:02 PM
What size do you need TXSailor? I may have a new one handy that I can bring tomorrow. Thanks!

TXSailor
11-19-2010, 04:40 PM
OK I actually measured them- I got the standard 4" plate- but they also gave me the 5" plate as well. The pads are 6.5" Is that too much overhang or am I good? imaj- thanks for the offer- my pads fyi are not the curved type in your photo. But do I need a bigger pate based upon the measurements?

imaj
11-19-2010, 05:30 PM
Bring a pad tomorrow. I will bring a couple of plates. We will find a match.

TXSailor
11-19-2010, 06:57 PM
Bring a pad tomorrow. I will bring a couple of plates. We will find a match.

sounds good

Flat6
08-04-2011, 08:15 PM
What's the difference between wax and sealant? Is one better or do you use both?

JoshVette
08-04-2011, 09:44 PM
What's the difference between wax and sealant? Is one better or do you use both?

First off please understand that there are only about 1.2 Trillion variations of both waxes and sealants and each variation can have different results...

With that said very simply put a wax is a protective product using mainly natural agents such as carnuaba and bees waxes and such spliced with many other oils and chemicals in order to make them applicable.

Sealants are basically protective products with man made agents such as (mainly) polymers.

Both do the basically the same job of protecting the paint, I wouldn't say one protects much better then the other, again many different kinds and types so.... but I would say typically a true wax will not last as long as a synthetic polymer sealant.

There are even brands now trying to effectively produce a mixture of natural wax and synthetic sealant in one...

My vote is for sealants personally, but that's just my opinion.

Josh

JoshVette
08-04-2011, 09:48 PM
OK I actually measured them- I got the standard 4" plate- but they also gave me the 5" plate as well. The pads are 6.5" Is that too much overhang or am I good? imaj- thanks for the offer- my pads fyi are not the curved type in your photo. But do I need a bigger pate based upon the measurements?

You should not need a larger backing plate for 6.5 pads. I use a 5 backing plate and 6.5 pads on mine and it works great. I think that little flexibility is actually better, it really allows the pad to follow the contours a bit better. My opinion of course.

Josh

Qship5
08-04-2011, 10:12 PM
What's the difference between wax and sealant? Is one better or do you use both?

Josh covered the basics pretty well on this subject, so I'll just add a few observations I've made over the years. Sealants will in most cases outlast carnauba waxes. Carnauba waxes will often offer better paint depth rather than the mirror reflection of a sealant. (Some of the newer sealants are getting pretty close to matching the waxes in this area.) I'm a wax fan, but in our Summers switch to sealant as the wax "melts away" too fast.

The debate between the two is much like analog vs. digital audio. It's really a matter of personal preference. :)

Flat6
08-05-2011, 05:16 AM
Josh/Qship5 thanks for the explanation. I want to give sealant a try, the wax doesn't seem to last very long. What's the best way to strip the old wax? Is procedure to strip sealant same as wax? And lastly, what brand of sealant do you use. Tnx

Qship5
08-05-2011, 09:30 AM
Josh/Qship5 thanks for the explanation. I want to give sealant a try, the wax doesn't seem to last very long. What's the best way to strip the old wax? Is procedure to strip sealant same as wax? And lastly, what brand of sealant do you use. Tnx





There are several ways to strip the old wax.
Wash the car using a detergent such as Dawn
Clay bar the car (Detailed Image Paint Clay Kit (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=8131&url=detailedimage.com/DI-Packages-M29/DI-Medium-Grade-Clay-Bar-100g-Clay-Lube-P506/) or Pinnacle Poly Clay (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-3596920-10509474?url=http://www.autogeek.net/ultra-fine-poly-clay.html) )
Use a pre-wax paint cleanser
As far as sealant's go, I have three that I currently use, but there are a number of good ones.
Blackfire Wet Diamond (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=8131&url=detailedimage.com/Blackfire-M32/Wet-Diamond-P205/16-oz-S1/) (My current favorite because it offers a wax like look)

Klasse Sealant (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-3596920-10509474?url=http://http://www.autogeek.net/klashiggloss.html) (Extremely long lasting, but a bit more finicky when applying)

Zaino Z-2 (Very high level of shine, but requires 2 - 3 coats initially)

I always recommend using the clay bar before applying a wax or sealant to ensure a clean surface to accept the wax or sealant.

Hope that helps.

Flat6
08-05-2011, 05:10 PM
That helps a lot. Thanks

TXS2000
08-10-2011, 11:21 AM
There are several ways to strip the old wax.
Wash the car using a detergent such as Dawn
Clay bar the car (Detailed Image Paint Clay Kit (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=8131&url=detailedimage.com/DI-Packages-M29/DI-Medium-Grade-Clay-Bar-100g-Clay-Lube-P506/) or Pinnacle Poly Clay (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-3596920-10509474?url=http://www.autogeek.net/ultra-fine-poly-clay.html) )
Use a pre-wax paint cleanser
As far as sealant's go, I have three that I currently use, but there are a number of good ones.
Blackfire Wet Diamond (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=8131&url=detailedimage.com/Blackfire-M32/Wet-Diamond-P205/16-oz-S1/) (My current favorite because it offers a wax like look)

Klasse Sealant (http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-3596920-10509474?url=http://http://www.autogeek.net/klashiggloss.html) (Extremely long lasting, but a bit more finicky when applying)

Zaino Z-2 (Very high level of shine, but requires 2 - 3 coats initially)

I always recommend using the clay bar before applying a wax or sealant to ensure a clean surface to accept the wax or sealant.

Hope that helps.

My personal favorite is the Blackfire Wet Diamond for the reason that Mike listed. It is also very easy to work with. :thumbsup2:

CIWS
09-12-2011, 05:01 PM
The X6 has apparently been the "victim" of Classic BMW's sprinkler system, mostly on the two passenger side windows (has to be on paint too). I've tried several "normal" cleaners to get it off and it's basically just laughing at me. Any guidance would be appreciated. :)

Malu59RT
09-12-2011, 05:51 PM
The X6 has apparently been the "victim" of Classic BMW's sprinkler system, mostly on the two passenger side windows (has to be on paint too). I've tried several "normal" cleaners to get it off and it's basically just laughing at me. Any guidance would be appreciated. :)

GOOD LUCK!!! I have 27 hrs detailing a friends CTS-V that had sprinkler damage, and it wasn't fun at all. 2 stage polish on the paint, compound and high speed buff on the windows, and metal polish on the chrome trim (to get most of it off).

Qship5
09-12-2011, 07:33 PM
GOOD LUCK!!! I have 27 hrs detailing a friends CTS-V that had sprinkler damage, and it wasn't fun at all. 2 stage polish on the paint, compound and high speed buff on the windows, and metal polish on the chrome trim (to get most of it off).

Like stated above, this can be a real PITA to clean up. If it sat on there and baked in the sun at all, your only way to get rid of it is to polish it out. It will take an aggressive polish/compuind to remove it and then a finer polish to get the paint back to where it needs to be. The glass may need to be polished as well, but that might also clean up with some vinegar and water solution.

I really hate the Texas hard water.

CIWS
09-12-2011, 07:51 PM
Well I've tested a couple of things on small areas of the glass, first goo gone, simple green, nail polish remover (I was very careful), and claybar. So far the claybar appears to have the most effect. I was actually surprised to see the NPR did little or nothing. (Acetone can be some serious stuff.)

However I'm a little concerned about giving it back to the dealership to solve as I don't know what they'll do to try and clean it.

imaj
09-12-2011, 08:54 PM
For water spots, I have never had a problem removing them when I use this...

Chemical Guys Water Spot Remover - http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Water-Spot-Remover-P194/16-oz-S1/

CIWS
09-12-2011, 09:49 PM
Once again, thanks for the info and help with this. :)

Qship5
09-12-2011, 11:27 PM
For water spots, I have never had a problem removing them when I use this...

Chemical Guys Water Spot Remover - http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Water-Spot-Remover-P194/16-oz-S1/

I'm going to have to try this stuff.

CIWS
09-13-2011, 04:46 PM
I'm going to have to try this stuff.

I ordered some this morning :)

Qship5
09-14-2011, 12:47 AM
I ordered some tonight along with some of the mf towels that were on sale. Gotta love the flat rate $4.99 shipping too.

Oh and if you add code WSLEATH3711 to your order you get a free leather brush.

Detailed Image (http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php?id=8131&url=detailedimage.com) is one of my two go to places for detailing supplies.

imaj
09-14-2011, 09:01 AM
Awesome! Thanks for the info. Mike!

CIWS
09-14-2011, 06:14 PM
I ordered some tonight along with some of the mf towels that were on sale. Gotta love the flat rate $4.99 shipping too.



That's funny me too (ordered some microfiber on sale along with the cleaner)

CIWS
09-26-2011, 06:18 PM
For water spots, I have never had a problem removing them when I use this...

Chemical Guys Water Spot Remover - http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Water-Spot-Remover-P194/16-oz-S1/

Thanks again for this info. I had a chance yesterday to attack my windows with it and it took the spray off. Now when the light comes through the passenger windows it doesn't look like Godzilla sneezed on them.

imaj
09-26-2011, 10:17 PM
Nice! Glad it worked for you.