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jsbkg
10-20-2010, 07:43 AM
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For 11MY, GT-R features improved engine output and torque, greater fuel efficiency, revised handling, a refreshed exterior with improved aerodynamics, revised interior treatment and
new wheels and tires. The large number of enhancements for the new model year is part of the continuous advancement of the GT-R design, technology and performance since its debut in December 2007. Nissan has also enhanced the level of after-sales support for GT-R owners, providing even greater value for customers.

The "World of GT-R" expands again this year with the addition of a racing circuit use-only "Club Track" edition and an ultra-exclusive "EGOIST" version that can be custom-ordered according to the precise desires of each individual customer. The complete 11MY Nissan GT-R model lineup now includes six versions - the "Pure edition," "Black edition," "Premium edition," "SpecV," "Club Track" and "EGOIST" - allowing customers to choose the exact level of dynamic performance and style to meet their various needs.

The 11MY Nissan GT-R will also be released in North America, Europe and other regions after February 2011. Nissan is considering introducing EGOIST in Europe and the Middle East, and the Club Track edition in Europe as well.

11MY Nissan GT-R Overview

Developed under the theme of offering the "world's best multi-performance and responsive driving pleasure," every area of the GT-R has been carefully rethought or retuned for 11MY. The changes range from greater body stability and strength and improved aerodynamics performance to a sportier interior and enhanced performance. Following are the key enhancements of the creative GT-R design.

1. Mechanism

Engine and Transmission Enhancements

By modifying the boost pressure of the turbocharger, valve timing and air mixture ratio, reducing intake air resistance by enlarging the inlet pipe diameter, and reducing exhaust air resistance through use of an enlarged section of exhaust pipe, fuel economy is improved to 8.5km/L (10-15 mode) or 8.6km/L (JC08 mode).
At the same time, the engine output is significantly improved to 390kW(530ps)/6,400rpm with maximum torque of 612N·m(62.5kgf·m) from 3,200 to 6,000 rpm. A new red color engine cover is used to demonstrate its greater performance.
Cleaner emissions are realized through adopting an ultra-low precious metal catalyst and ECM with high-capacity microprocessor - achieving SU-LEV certification levels (emitting 75% fewer emissions than Japan's 2005 exhaust emission standards).
A new SAVE mode is adopted, which optimizes driving torque and modifies the shift schedule to improve actual fuel economy when driving highways or open roads. This mode also helps reduce ankle fatigue.
Starting performance while selecting "R mode" for the transmission and VDC-R is improved.
To control tight corner braking phenomenon, which can occur when starting the vehicle while turning the steering wheel, 2WD mode is added to temporarily shift to 2WD driving.

* When the vehicle speed is below 10km/h and the steering wheel is turned more than halfway.
Body Strengthening
A highly rigid, lightweight strut supporting bar, made of carbon composite with aluminum honeycomb material, is installed in the partition wall of the engine compartment. By linking the right and left struts to quickly receive suspension input, the vehicle body's responsiveness to driving operation is enhanced.
An additional support member is installed in the passenger side of the instrument panel. Responsiveness of the vehicle body is further improved by enhanced rigidity for connection with the engine compartment.
For further production accuracy, the fitting precision of the body panels is enhanced and a higher-precision G sensor is utilized in checking the instrument panel during the vibration testing of each vehicle body.
Suspension and Braking Modifications

For the front suspension, the lever ratio of the springs, shock absorbers and stabilizer bar is modified to improve the vertical load response of the tires. Front caster angle is increased from 5°35 to 6°00 to improve tire road holding ability when turning and stability while driving straight.
For the rear suspension, toe performance is modified by changing the roll center height to a lower position in order to improve tire grip while making turns and to better communicate driving feel.
An aluminum free-piston shock absorber design is newly developed which generates more precise damping force to constantly provide stable road holding and a load shift that quickly responds to driver's intention. Reduced friction in the shock absorbers provides high quality, smooth ride comfort.
A thin, large-diameter rotor (F390) developed uniquely by Nissan is adopted to improve braking force, fade resistance, pedal control ability and extend brake rotor life for sporty driving.
Wheels and Tires

The 11MY GT-R also features newly designed, lighter weight and more rigid forged aluminum-alloy wheels. Made by Rays, the wheels help improve tire responsiveness to vertical load. Knurling inside the wheel is modified to avoid deviation of tire rotation direction caused by the higher engine output. On the wheel surface, a new Hyper Blue Black Chrome color is adopted, which expresses high quality and high-performance feel. The wheels' deep gloss is created by utilization of a five-layer coating process.
The Dunlop SP SPORT MAXX GT 600 DSST CTT tires have a new compound to improve tire grip. With renewed structure and improved tread and sidewall rigidity, straight-line stability in rutted roads is enhanced.

2. Design
Exterior and aerodynamics

Even with GT-R's already intense and stable form, its world-leading aerodynamics performance is further improved through a number of significant enhancements. Downforce is increased by about 10%, while the coefficient of drag is further reduced from 0.27 to 0.26.
Stability is improved by enlarged bumper and grille openings
The front bumper is newly designed with double rectifier fins and Hyper Daylight with a large-diameter reflecting surface and high intensity white-color LED lights. The design increases front downforce by about 10%, while also reducing air resistance inside the engine compartment. The volume of air that passes through the radiator and cools down the front brakes is also increased.

Additional plated parts are used for headlight inner panels, enhancing the car's strong presence.
The redesigned rear bumper features a lower center of gravity than the previous design, created by a sculptured lower portion and extended length. Underfloor cooling performance is enhanced with air resistance reduced by extending a rear diffuser.
Cooling performance for the muffler is improved and rear downforce is increased by about 10% through use of a new rear bumper air outlet, which helps remove air in the rear wheelhouses.

A newly designed tailpipe finisher with enlarged diameter is adopted. Rear high-intensity LED fog lamps are provided as standard equipment to help improve visibility from vehicles behind in rainy or snowy conditions.
Six exterior colors are available, including two new colors: Meteo Flake Black Pearl (2P) and Aurora Flare Blue Pearl (2P). (Both are special colors.)
Interior

A newly shaped instrument panel pad and navigation system display finisher are adopted, with stitch lines changed to express an enhanced quality feel.
Real carbon center cluster finisher is used, along with matte black finished switches.
The GT-R emblem at the center of the steering wheel has a new velour-like coating, expressing a glossy texture. For the paddle shift, a coating exposing the magnesium base material is applied.
Chrome-plated rings in the console and air-conditioner outlets are finished with a new black smoky coating, expressing greater sportiness.
Seat

Seats for Pure edition and Premium edition provide an improved level of comfort and safety while cornering. In addition, fatigue levels are reduced for the thighs and lower back by changing the shape, extending the length of seating surface and refurbishing the cushion stroke. A new seatback design seatback is adopted to improve fit.
The Black edition has leather-appointed bucket seats using a Recaro design based on the structure of Pure edition and Premium edition seats.

SpecV

Modifications applicable only to the SpecV are as follows:

Engine modifications are the same as the base model with improved maximum power output and torque, as well as enhanced fuel economy, except maximum torque is improved to 612N·m(62.5kgf·m)/ 3,200~6,000rpm (632N·m(64.5kgf·m)/ 3,600~5,600rpm). (Figures in parenthesis are when high geared boost is used.)
To improve abrasion resistance and stability in racing circuit driving, rear brake pad material is changed and VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) balance under braking is modified.
Dunlop SP SPORT MAXX GT 600 DSST CTT tire is adopted as a standard feature.
Special Rays lightweight aluminum forging wheels for the SpecV are adopted from the previous model with the color changed to Metallic Black.

EGOIST

EGOIST is the first and only Nissan GT-R in the world exclusively created by Takumi, or "master with greatest skills." Each customer can choose a combination of interior colors among 20 choices. In addition, the Bose® sound system is exclusively tuned according to the driving position of each driver to meet every customer's needs. This is the ultimate expression of the Nissan GT-R.

Interior
Customers can choose a combination of interior colors among 20 choices, four upper area interior colors and 10 lower area interior colors. Interior parts are sent to Seton Company, Inc. Muelheim an der Ruhr in Germany and leather master craftsmen sew and stick carefully selected leather by hand.

Seats
Seats are an exclusive quilted design with single and double stitching combined in a reticular pattern. Enhanced body grip performance (suitable for racing circuit driving), smoothness and fit are all provided.

Wajima Lacquer (Maki-e) Emblem
Wajima Maki-e with deep coloring and glaze created by Mr. Sakae Kubota, an accredited traditional craftsman for Japanese lacquer, is used for the GT-R emblem at the center of the steering wheel. The beautiful coloring of Maki-e changes as time goes by.

Bose® Precision Sound System
Specially developed carbon composite-based woofers, which can cancel vibrations through their high rigidity and damping, are installed. In addition, sound quality is adjusted by Bose® exclusively for each owner, depending on individual driving position.

Carbon Rear Spoiler
EGOIST adopts a dry carbon rear spoiler (also used in the SpecV). Providing stable aerodynamic performance, even when driving at more than 300km/h, the rear spoiler gives an intense look in the rear with its black carbon color.

RAYS Forged Aluminum-Alloy Wheels
Lightweight and highly rigid forged aluminum-alloy wheels, also used in the SpecV, reduce unsprung weight and help provide a supple ride feel. Newly developed five-layer Blue Sword Chrome Color Coating is adopted.

Titanium Exhaust System
EGOIST uses a Titanium exhaust system, also used in the SpecV, providing agile accelerator response and a clear, exhilarating exhaust sound.




Takeshi Tamotsu / Width / Tamotsu Takashi
4670mm/1895mm/1370mm
Wheelbase
2780mm
Front / rear
1590mm/1600mm
Minimum ground clearance
110mm
Vehicle weight
1730Kg*
Riding capacity
4 (2 +2) Name
Curb weight
1950Kg*
Turning circle
5.7m
10.15-mode fuel consumption rate (Ministry of Land Value Review)
8.5km / L
JC08 mode fuel consumption rate (Ministry of Land Value Review)
8.6km / L
Total emission
3.799L
Maximum output
390 (530) / 6400 (kW (PS) / rpm)
Maximum torque
612 (62.5) / 3200-6000 (N · m (kgf · m) / rpm)
Fuel tank capacity
74L premium unleaded petrol
Front and rear tires
255/40ZRF20 (97Y) · 285/35ZRF20 (10

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EGOIST

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SpecV

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1of the new wheel colors in HI Res

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Nissan Offician Video links

PART 1: The Promise - Three Years Later (http://www.gtrnissan.com/en/web_GTR/GT-R/movie01/index.html)


PART 2: The Progression- Performance (http://www.gtrnissan.com/en/web_GTR/GT-R/movie02/index.html)


PART 3: The Creation- Dramatic Emotions (http://www.gtrnissan.com/en/web_GTR/GT-R/movie03/index.html)

Malu59RT
10-20-2010, 09:18 AM
That leather interior option is pretty cool, makes me think "Ferrari".

Was it Porsche that called B.S. on the GTR's first Nurburgring lap time? Wonder if they'll try to duplicate this new time as well.

Crash
10-20-2010, 02:45 PM
Makes me think Bentley.

TXS2000
10-29-2010, 11:21 AM
I love the retro look on the seats in the camel colored interior. Very classy!

Bruce954
10-29-2010, 04:09 PM
The new nose looks like the "old" Mitsubishi Eclipse. Not a fan.

http://www.thesportycar.com/includes/images/Mitsubishi_Eclipse/2000MitsubishiEclipse.jpg

Wheels too for that matter.

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Malu59RT
10-29-2010, 04:18 PM
The new nose looks like the "old" Mitsubishi Eclipse. Not a fan.

http://www.thesportycar.com/includes/images/Mitsubishi_Eclipse/2000MitsubishiEclipse.jpg

Wheels too on the Egoist for that matter.

http://www.nagtroc.org/gallery/albums/userpics/18538/R35_101018-38.jpg

Wow, I really hate those eclipse wheels also. Good catch!

TXS2000
10-29-2010, 04:31 PM
The new nose looks like the "old" Mitsubishi Eclipse. Not a fan.

Wheels too for that matter.


:ahhhhh: I liked the car until the Mitsubishi similarities were pointed out. Now I look at the pictures and cry. :bawling: The number of styling queues are pretty amazing when you start looking at them side by side.

BlackSheep
10-29-2010, 07:38 PM
Not a fan... GTR LOL

jsbkg
12-02-2010, 12:36 AM
:ahhhhh: I liked the car until the Mitsubishi similarities were pointed out. Now I look at the pictures and cry. :bawling: The number of styling queues are pretty amazing when you start looking at them side by side.

I know...i don't like that part, neither.

Not a fan... GTR LOL

I will be close to 900awhp on mustang dyno....:whistle:

Mr.Big
12-02-2010, 04:11 AM
I know...i don't like that part, neither.



I will be close to 900awhp on mustang dyno....:whistle:

Did you upgrade the tranny gear set? Or has another fix been found?

jsbkg
12-02-2010, 08:05 PM
Did you upgrade the tranny gear set? Or has another fix been found?

Trans upgrade will be done shortly.

Yes, there are plenty of choices as far as trans upgrade at the moment. 1st to full gearset with simple clutch to entire clutch basket and much more.

I am looking into those choices but my budget is running out....these trans upgrades are not cheap!:hmmmm2:

RaceMX-M3
12-02-2010, 09:07 PM
Shin, great to see you post! Look forward to seeing what your car is capable of. :thumbsup2:

Mr.Big
12-03-2010, 12:56 PM
I am looking into those choices but my budget is running out....these trans upgrades are not cheap!:hmmmm2:

That's what Kenny said when we spoke about the GTR Tranny, I was blown way at the prices for the upgrades, but you know the deal that's just part of it. Best of luck with your build looking forward to the results, the GTR is one of my favorite cars for the money the tranny is my only real disappointment...

BlackSheep
12-03-2010, 08:25 PM
I will be close to 900awhp on mustang dyno....:whistle:

We should race when you get it back!! We'll see how my lowly 800whp stacks up...:whistle:

jsbkg
12-04-2010, 02:43 AM
That's what Kenny said when we spoke about the GTR Tranny, I was blown way at the prices for the upgrades, but you know the deal that's just part of it. Best of luck with your build looking forward to the results, the GTR is one of my favorite cars for the money the tranny is my only real disappointment...

Thank you for your kind words.

I do think the GTR is one of the best buy for the money. Not many cars can go 9 secs with simple bolt-on's.

I don't think the tranny is that weak at all although some fresh tranny's had failed due to solenoid failure. All of them were actually covered underwarranty by Nissan even if mod or reflash had took place in. Oh well, you are right. It is disappointment.

Those unlucky trans seems to be Borgwarner's quality control failure because none of the stock gtr tranny's are holding the same contant line pressure to hold the clutch although they are in the range and some actually had the valve bodies were loosen up from the manufactures. It's long story. Hopely, when I show up at the regular saturday meet, I can explain you better.

My buddy launched his gtr off the line or at drag strip more than anybody in the world. His stock tranny is still holding good. I think he did LC more than 100 times.

jsbkg
12-04-2010, 02:49 AM
We should race when you get it back!! We'll see how my lowly 800whp stacks up...:whistle:

it will be fun! You will have weight advantage for sure....

rberg32
12-06-2010, 10:44 AM
Nice pix.. I like that tan stitched leather..

GTCole
12-06-2010, 08:45 PM
Car seems to be looking better to me. I know you loyals don't like some stuff, but the new refresh and interior is a step up for the car. 7:20 is a good number too.

RioGrandeValley
12-07-2010, 08:29 AM
Very nice but still no thanks. Give me a 997TT PDK any time. Love the interior though and right it does have a certain Bentley look to it.

GTCole
12-07-2010, 08:32 AM
530 HP and 7:20 don't work. But it's interesting.

Qikhawk
04-20-2011, 04:58 PM
530 HP and 7:20 don't work. But it's interesting.

It does when you factor in the car being about to put more power to the ground for more time than the other cars in the running. As it has an advanced awd system you don't have to pull your foot out of it worrying about the rear sliding out as in the zr1 or cgt.

Malu59RT
04-20-2011, 05:47 PM
It does when you factor in the car being about to put more power to the ground for more time than the other cars in the running. As it has an advanced awd system you don't have to pull your foot out of it worrying about the rear sliding out as in the zr1 or cgt.

:laugh:

Still no 7:20

GTCole
04-20-2011, 06:22 PM
It does when you factor in the car being about to put more power to the ground for more time than the other cars in the running. As it has an advanced awd system you don't have to pull your foot out of it worrying about the rear sliding out as in the zr1 or cgt.

Funny. Sorry, but I disagree. AWD is a hindrance to time. Not a help. A 2wd car is lighter, etc. Not happening.

Qikhawk
04-20-2011, 09:47 PM
Funny. Sorry, but I disagree. AWD is a hindrance to time. Not a help. A 2wd car is lighter, etc. Not happening.

Not always completely true, the zr1 has to watch its power constantly, you can power out of most turns with the GT-R. It's not a simple 4wd system like on jeeps its been refined since 89ish. The R32 GTR when it entered JGTC won every single race it competed in iirc. If you look at the lap times for it, it's not surprising that adding an extra 50 hp to the car would drop the time.

The GTR in 2010 did a 7:24.22 in semi wet conditions, while the GT2 RS (I think someone knows about this car I can't remember who it is though :whistle: ) ran a 7:24. That's faster than the Maserati MC12, the Ferrari Enzo, and the Pagani Zonda F Clubsport. All lighter RWD cars with more horsepower.

nash
04-20-2011, 10:36 PM
Quilted leather in a GT-R... wtf? I like those Recaros in the one spec. The Eclipse detailing on the front end is definitely a bummer...

GTCole
04-21-2011, 05:34 AM
Not always completely true, the zr1 has to watch its power constantly, you can power out of most turns with the GT-R. It's not a simple 4wd system like on jeeps its been refined since 89ish. The R32 GTR when it entered JGTC won every single race it competed in iirc. If you look at the lap times for it, it's not surprising that adding an extra 50 hp to the car would drop the time.

The GTR in 2010 did a 7:24.22 in semi wet conditions, while the GT2 RS (I think someone knows about this car I can't remember who it is though :whistle: ) ran a 7:24. That's faster than the Maserati MC12, the Ferrari Enzo, and the Pagani Zonda F Clubsport. All lighter RWD cars with more horsepower.

7:18. Anyway, I disagree. No biggie. I'm sure it's fast, wouldn't mind having one someday, but I've run against many stock one's in my GT3 and my old 3RS about 6-9 months ago. I don't think those were the 530 HP variants, but they couldn't hang for beans. No biggie, it's just an opinion on cars.

Cabinetman
04-21-2011, 10:31 AM
I have a 2012 GT-R and previously had a 2011 that had an HKS resonated mid-pipe and HKS Legamax rear section exhaust. I can tell that the new car is stronger in the mid-range as well as up top. The new launch control is a huge improvement over the neutered version on my 2011. I also think the new car has better steering and a slightly better ride in comfort mode. I don't have any track experience in either car so I can't comment on that, but overall I feel like the 2012 GT-R is a nice upgrade over the earlier R35s. Since I'm not one to do a lot of mods the new car made sense to me, but if I was planning to make big power then a used '09 through '11 might be a better buy.

Qikhawk
04-21-2011, 04:53 PM
7:18. Anyway, I disagree. No biggie. I'm sure it's fast, wouldn't mind having one someday, but I've run against many stock one's in my GT3 and my old 3RS about 6-9 months ago. I don't think those were the 530 HP variants, but they couldn't hang for beans. No biggie, it's just an opinion on cars.

Agreed, you have epic taste in cars, this is just one opinion :thumbsup2:

AlexD
04-21-2011, 08:05 PM
I've never driven any of the new Porsche cars or the GTR. I'm new to tracking. Question: How does the Turbo S compare to the GT3 RS on the track?

I am loving AWD thus far (my first AWD car) as it does make it very easy to drive at limits.

GTCole
04-22-2011, 06:26 AM
I've never driven any of the new Porsche cars or the GTR. I'm new to tracking. Question: How does the Turbo S compare to the GT3 RS on the track?

I am loving AWD thus far (my first AWD car) as it does make it very easy to drive at limits.

I can't say. So so so much depends on the driver, that most of the time the car is less important. When I had my GT3 RS, it was easy to pass all cars. There were a few that I couldn't, but they were high HP track specific machines modded to the track. I did run the other day against a new turbo with some mods, and I could easily pass him in my GT3. On a track, the AWD is a hindrance and weight problem. Big kaboom speed in a straight will always lose to a better cornering and exit speed car.

Silentrun
04-22-2011, 08:59 AM
:thumbsup2::dito::thumbsup2::thumbsup2:

GTCole
04-22-2011, 09:14 AM
^You stud.....

Raven
04-22-2011, 09:44 AM
The majority of time when you're driving a GT-R, it's in rear wheel drive.
Only when it feels conditions are necessary will it go into AWD.

Silentrun
04-22-2011, 10:20 AM
The majority of time when you're driving a GT-R, it's in rear wheel drive.
Only when it feels conditions are necessary will it go into AWD.

You keep on sneaking in on threads you won't be lurking anymore...

Cabinetman
04-22-2011, 11:43 AM
The majority of time when you're driving a GT-R, it's in rear wheel drive.
Only when it feels conditions are necessary will it go into AWD.

While that is true, one of the conditions it which it will send power to the front wheels is while accelerating out of a corner. You can get the rear end to rotate some, but then the AWD system will send the power where the most traction is. This make for a very fast car through corners, but the driver isn't able to adjust the balance of the car like he could if it were just rear wheel drive.

For a novice like me the GT-R offers a nice safety net while still being very quick, but I can see how a more experienced driver would prefer the added control he/she can have with a RWD setup.

GTCole
04-22-2011, 11:50 AM
^Bring it to the track sometime. You got a nice car. Tow it with your sissy truck. I would like to see one run the track. We have special events from time to time. Welcome to forum too.

Cabinetman
04-22-2011, 12:06 PM
^Bring it to the track sometime. You got a nice car. Tow it with your sissy truck. I would like to see one run the track. We have special events from time to time. Welcome to forum too.

I appreciate the warm welcome.

I definitely want to get the car on the track soon. After going to the Porsche World Roadshow and a Lexus driving event I'm ready to learn how to properly handle a car on the track. I'm a little concerned my fat Nissan will kill me with tire, fluid and brake expenses, but I guess you got to pay to play.

I'll probably just drive the car to my first few track events. I would hate to bog down my poor 6.7 PSD with such a heavy load.:)

GTCole
04-22-2011, 03:40 PM
^LOL. Sorry. Porsche Roadshow track deal was sissy too. You gotta bring it to the track without a leash and drive hard, then you will understand. Yep, it costs just a touch.

Maybe, just maybe, the truck can handle the load. Who knows.

Brett
04-23-2011, 02:27 PM
I think people vastly overrate the difficulty of putting power down coming out of a corner in a well sorted RWD platform. The reality is the vast majority of drivers are going to baby it coming out of corners for fear of going off no matter what platform their using.... :ahhhhh:

GTCole
04-23-2011, 02:41 PM
^If you are putting down power coming out of a corner, you are way too late and slow.

Silentrun
04-23-2011, 02:54 PM
My philosophy on life...see through the apex and be squeezing throttle...

GTCole
04-23-2011, 02:56 PM
Good one

Apex=full throttle

Brett
04-23-2011, 03:51 PM
Good one

Apex=full throttle

My point was more to the effect that people perceive some sort of magic to being able to do so without the car spinning, and thus the theoretical "need" for AWD in order to put power down.

GTCole
04-23-2011, 04:11 PM
^i agree.

Silentrun
04-23-2011, 04:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-wheel_drive

Check out 4wd in road racing...

AlexD
04-23-2011, 06:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-wheel_drive

Check out 4wd in road racing...

I've heard scca is trying to change the rules in auto cross to decrease the maximum turbo inlet size making the awd turbo cars (modified) unable to compete.

GTCole
04-25-2011, 08:25 PM
I've heard scca is trying to change the rules in auto cross to decrease the maximum turbo inlet size making the awd turbo cars (modified) unable to compete.

Is an AWD car better or worse in an autocross? I only know the track. I would also think an NA car would be better in autocross due to exact motor responsiveness and control. But, I've never done much besides toy events.

Brett
04-26-2011, 08:21 AM
Is an AWD car better or worse in an autocross? I only know the track. I would also think an NA car would be better in autocross due to exact motor responsiveness and control. But, I've never done much besides toy events.

Autocross starts from a stop and tends to include much tighter corners at lower speeds. The AWD is a major boon starting off the line and firing out of the tighter corners.

OKcruising
04-26-2011, 06:38 PM
Autocross starts from a stop and tends to include much tighter corners at lower speeds. The AWD is a major boon starting off the line and firing out of the tighter corners.

Definitely true.

I remember taking my STi and Evo 8 to autox events and while I abused the piss out of the clutch; I could launch off corners nicely. Easy predictable handling and fun to pitch the rear out. Ahh... those days were so much less stressful lol.