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Old 03-22-2012, 11:43 PM   #21
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I love all this input. I just bought a Living Social deal for a $49 CHL course at the Garland Bass Pro. So I may be in the market for a carry weapon in the near future. The 92FS is a bit big for me in that regard.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:17 PM   #22
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DEMO UPDATE! I spent a lot of time today after the Auto Show at Dallas Gun range, and Bullet Trap in Plano. I demoed several pistols, handled a bunch more. Here were the results............

Beretta 92 I didn't demo one, but it's WAY too heavy. I took it off the list, as it's way too bulky for my hands.

Glock 19 LOVED how easy it is to shoot, and the simplicity of the pistol. Super easy trigger, and superb balance. I thought it was a no-brainer to shoot and handle, felt great in the hands, and seemed pretty accurate.

Sig 239 No demos of the 2022 or 220/226 I wanted, but I had a 239 demo. Feel & balance were fine, and ACCURACY was superb with this pistol.

However - I did NOT like the DA/SA of this pistol. First round chambered requires a longer trigger pull to fire, and subsequent fires are with a very short, light action that is much too close to the body of the pistol. I DISLIKED the closeness of the slide release to the hammer release, to me it's confusing and misleading. This is Off the list for me.

........at this point, I've decided I do NOT want a traditional hammer pistol..........

M&P Pretty durn sweet. Great balance, accuracy was OK for me, and the gun is pretty nicely balanced. The demo had a very difficult spring in the magazine, and was kind of hard to load. Nonetheless, I liked this weapon.

Springfield XD Balance, feel, everything felt right. I LOVED the little firing pin visualization to show you a round is ready to go. Liked the 1911-style safety feature on the grip. If I recall, was easy to breakdown. The price was right, as they had a base-type model sold without too many accessories. All things considered, this is now my favorite pistol.

SUMMARY: This is between the Glock and Springfield. I love the simplicity of the Glock, but I like the Springfield's litle pin visualization that a round is ready. The cost is less as well. I'm doing more research, but I think this is the one for me.


LAUGHing moment: At least 2-3 guys told me (in response to my explanation that I wanted a home defense weapon)....."There's nothing like the sound of a Shotgun being cocked & loaded - you'll probably NEVER have to fire it!"

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Old 03-24-2012, 10:57 PM   #23
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Sig 239 No demos of the 2022 or 220/226 I wanted, but I had a 239 demo. Feel & balance were fine, and ACCURACY was superb with this pistol.

However - I did NOT like the DA/SA of this pistol. First round chambered requires a longer trigger pull to fire, and subsequent fires are with a very short, light action that is much too close to the body of the pistol. I DISLIKED the closeness of the slide release to the hammer release, to me it's confusing and misleading. This is Off the list for me.

Sig offers an SRT option; Short Reset Trigger. May want to look into that. They also offer a DAO; Double Action Only-not something I care for, but all my Sigs have the SRT. The longer pull on the DA first shot can be a benefit if you need to use your weapon in a stressful situation. The longer first DA pull will more than likely prevent an accidental discharge. If you do need to use it, then after that first pull (especially with the SRT trigger) each follow-up shot is all SA...
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Old 03-25-2012, 09:55 AM   #24
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The XD and M&P pistols are variations on the original Glock. XD went as far as grip safety and slide-in grip pads for different size hands. The S&W M&P is also very nice...they all use the same type of trigger assembly that allows for quick trigger reset. IMHO you can't go wrong with any of the three manufacturers. Don't fuss over caliber.
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I've owned Kahr, Sig, H&K, S&W M&P, Rueger, Springfield XD, and many variants and manufacturers of 1911's. I liked things about all of them but the only two pistols I have no complaints or fusses about are my Springfield XD series pistols (my CCW is a .40 subcompact in a D.M. Bullard IWB holster) and my Wilson Combat CQB Lightrail Lightweight Professional. Those guns will be with me until I perish.

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have no complaints or fusses about are my Springfield XD series pistols (my CCW is a .40 subcompact in a D.M. Bullard IWB holster) and my Wilson Combat CQB Lightrail Lightweight Professional. Those guns will be with me until I perish.

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two guns i absolutely love. just put 200 rounds through my XD40sc Sunday....damn thing didnt skip a beat

Wish I could afford a Wilson. Friend of mine owns Wilson X/tac, 2 Nightwawks, Dan wessons and other badass 1911's
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How do you like that DM Bullard Holster?

I use the Comp-Tac Minotaur MTAC Holster.....
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I just bought the Springfield XD "Essentials" for a price I was very happy with, at the Allen Gunshow today! Apparently the Lewisivlle show is next weekend, but I'll be out at MSR.

I was torn between a Glock 17/19, M&P, and the XD, but quite lot of people were highly recommending this one, Looking forward to getting this one on the range soon!
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I didn't see much that interested me at the Allen show today. Glad you found something you liked

My son did get a $2 copper coin.
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Picked up my P220 Elite Dark on Friday.



Lets go shooting!!
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If you've never owned a Sig, I expect you will love it. One of the most instinctive point shhoting handguns at close range for me anyway. I would go with 180 gr jacketed hollowpoints. Should be dead-nuts reliable with them.
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If you've never owned a Sig, I expect you will love it. One of the most instinctive point shhoting handguns at close range for me anyway. I would go with 180 gr jacketed hollowpoints. Should be dead-nuts reliable with them.
Ive bought my first P220 back in Germany in 97 and Ill tell you that gun never once, not once jammed or FTF on me. It just keeps shooting.

Im hoping that this new and improved version will be the same
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Why is your finger on the trigger? Let's go shooting!
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Ive bought my first P220 back in Germany in 97 and Ill tell you that gun never once, not once jammed or FTF on me. It just keeps shooting.

Im hoping that this new and improved version will be the same
Those were great. Only downside was the Euro-Style mag release on the bottom of the grip! Took some getting used to... Different from my same era 226, not sure why...
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Why is your finger on the trigger? Let's go shooting!
Good question....just holding it sideways like that I guess

I'm ready Michael.....Ill call you when i get back in town.
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We'll go shoot this bad boy too

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I am going on a cruise this Friday and due back on the 23rd. Sunday the 24th sounds good though if open!
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It comes down to training. When your heart rate is over 110 and the adrenaline is running you won't even notice pulling the trigger...that is why you keep your finger off the trigger until ready. Again practice and training, identifying target and understanding the situation/environment IMHO and then the short-reset on the Glock can't be beat, again IMHO.




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Sig 239 No demos of the 2022 or 220/226 I wanted, but I had a 239 demo. Feel & balance were fine, and ACCURACY was superb with this pistol.

However - I did NOT like the DA/SA of this pistol. First round chambered requires a longer trigger pull to fire, and subsequent fires are with a very short, light action that is much too close to the body of the pistol. I DISLIKED the closeness of the slide release to the hammer release, to me it's confusing and misleading. This is Off the list for me.

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Anyone besides Mr. Ian have any experience with the Walther PPQ or P99? I'm suddenly intrigued by it...
I have a P99AS in .40S&W. It shoots very well, mine has never jammed or failed to fire, it's not too heavy or bulky, it has an adjustable backstrap for varying hand sizes. Holsters and add-ons are few and generally expensive.

You are welcome to shoot it if you like.
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