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Old 04-20-2011, 04:58 PM   #21
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530 HP and 7:20 don't work. But it's interesting.
It does when you factor in the car being about to put more power to the ground for more time than the other cars in the running. As it has an advanced awd system you don't have to pull your foot out of it worrying about the rear sliding out as in the zr1 or cgt.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:47 PM   #22
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It does when you factor in the car being about to put more power to the ground for more time than the other cars in the running. As it has an advanced awd system you don't have to pull your foot out of it worrying about the rear sliding out as in the zr1 or cgt.


Still no 7:20
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:22 PM   #23
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It does when you factor in the car being about to put more power to the ground for more time than the other cars in the running. As it has an advanced awd system you don't have to pull your foot out of it worrying about the rear sliding out as in the zr1 or cgt.
Funny. Sorry, but I disagree. AWD is a hindrance to time. Not a help. A 2wd car is lighter, etc. Not happening.
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Funny. Sorry, but I disagree. AWD is a hindrance to time. Not a help. A 2wd car is lighter, etc. Not happening.
Not always completely true, the zr1 has to watch its power constantly, you can power out of most turns with the GT-R. It's not a simple 4wd system like on jeeps its been refined since 89ish. The R32 GTR when it entered JGTC won every single race it competed in iirc. If you look at the lap times for it, it's not surprising that adding an extra 50 hp to the car would drop the time.

The GTR in 2010 did a 7:24.22 in semi wet conditions, while the GT2 RS (I think someone knows about this car I can't remember who it is though ) ran a 7:24. That's faster than the Maserati MC12, the Ferrari Enzo, and the Pagani Zonda F Clubsport. All lighter RWD cars with more horsepower.
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Quilted leather in a GT-R... wtf? I like those Recaros in the one spec. The Eclipse detailing on the front end is definitely a bummer...
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Not always completely true, the zr1 has to watch its power constantly, you can power out of most turns with the GT-R. It's not a simple 4wd system like on jeeps its been refined since 89ish. The R32 GTR when it entered JGTC won every single race it competed in iirc. If you look at the lap times for it, it's not surprising that adding an extra 50 hp to the car would drop the time.

The GTR in 2010 did a 7:24.22 in semi wet conditions, while the GT2 RS (I think someone knows about this car I can't remember who it is though ) ran a 7:24. That's faster than the Maserati MC12, the Ferrari Enzo, and the Pagani Zonda F Clubsport. All lighter RWD cars with more horsepower.
7:18. Anyway, I disagree. No biggie. I'm sure it's fast, wouldn't mind having one someday, but I've run against many stock one's in my GT3 and my old 3RS about 6-9 months ago. I don't think those were the 530 HP variants, but they couldn't hang for beans. No biggie, it's just an opinion on cars.
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I have a 2012 GT-R and previously had a 2011 that had an HKS resonated mid-pipe and HKS Legamax rear section exhaust. I can tell that the new car is stronger in the mid-range as well as up top. The new launch control is a huge improvement over the neutered version on my 2011. I also think the new car has better steering and a slightly better ride in comfort mode. I don't have any track experience in either car so I can't comment on that, but overall I feel like the 2012 GT-R is a nice upgrade over the earlier R35s. Since I'm not one to do a lot of mods the new car made sense to me, but if I was planning to make big power then a used '09 through '11 might be a better buy.
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7:18. Anyway, I disagree. No biggie. I'm sure it's fast, wouldn't mind having one someday, but I've run against many stock one's in my GT3 and my old 3RS about 6-9 months ago. I don't think those were the 530 HP variants, but they couldn't hang for beans. No biggie, it's just an opinion on cars.
Agreed, you have epic taste in cars, this is just one opinion
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I've never driven any of the new Porsche cars or the GTR. I'm new to tracking. Question: How does the Turbo S compare to the GT3 RS on the track?

I am loving AWD thus far (my first AWD car) as it does make it very easy to drive at limits.
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I've never driven any of the new Porsche cars or the GTR. I'm new to tracking. Question: How does the Turbo S compare to the GT3 RS on the track?

I am loving AWD thus far (my first AWD car) as it does make it very easy to drive at limits.
I can't say. So so so much depends on the driver, that most of the time the car is less important. When I had my GT3 RS, it was easy to pass all cars. There were a few that I couldn't, but they were high HP track specific machines modded to the track. I did run the other day against a new turbo with some mods, and I could easily pass him in my GT3. On a track, the AWD is a hindrance and weight problem. Big kaboom speed in a straight will always lose to a better cornering and exit speed car.
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The majority of time when you're driving a GT-R, it's in rear wheel drive.
Only when it feels conditions are necessary will it go into AWD.
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The majority of time when you're driving a GT-R, it's in rear wheel drive.
Only when it feels conditions are necessary will it go into AWD.
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The majority of time when you're driving a GT-R, it's in rear wheel drive.
Only when it feels conditions are necessary will it go into AWD.
While that is true, one of the conditions it which it will send power to the front wheels is while accelerating out of a corner. You can get the rear end to rotate some, but then the AWD system will send the power where the most traction is. This make for a very fast car through corners, but the driver isn't able to adjust the balance of the car like he could if it were just rear wheel drive.

For a novice like me the GT-R offers a nice safety net while still being very quick, but I can see how a more experienced driver would prefer the added control he/she can have with a RWD setup.
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^Bring it to the track sometime. You got a nice car. Tow it with your sissy truck. I would like to see one run the track. We have special events from time to time. Welcome to forum too.
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^Bring it to the track sometime. You got a nice car. Tow it with your sissy truck. I would like to see one run the track. We have special events from time to time. Welcome to forum too.
I appreciate the warm welcome.

I definitely want to get the car on the track soon. After going to the Porsche World Roadshow and a Lexus driving event I'm ready to learn how to properly handle a car on the track. I'm a little concerned my fat Nissan will kill me with tire, fluid and brake expenses, but I guess you got to pay to play.

I'll probably just drive the car to my first few track events. I would hate to bog down my poor 6.7 PSD with such a heavy load.
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^LOL. Sorry. Porsche Roadshow track deal was sissy too. You gotta bring it to the track without a leash and drive hard, then you will understand. Yep, it costs just a touch.

Maybe, just maybe, the truck can handle the load. Who knows.
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I think people vastly overrate the difficulty of putting power down coming out of a corner in a well sorted RWD platform. The reality is the vast majority of drivers are going to baby it coming out of corners for fear of going off no matter what platform their using....
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^If you are putting down power coming out of a corner, you are way too late and slow.
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